Help router BT !!
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stesrg said:
Please help and tell me why modem 3 will not work they are all BT home hubs where the wires copper come through the wall we’re joined by an engineer by a cat 4 cable upstairs into my office (the master socket .
Thanks Steve .
What are you trying to achieve? Neither "modem1" nor "modem2" seem to be connected to a phone socket so are you using them as network switches?Thanks Steve .
As far as I know you should only have one master socket.
thebraketester said:
Why have you got 3 modems?
Sorry crap drawing ! Modem 1 is connected to that master socket modem 2 is connected by an Ethernet cable from modem 1 the master socket is in the office powering modem 1 Modem 3 is downstairs connected to a recently fitted cable from where it comes into the house no master just a group of wires as the engineer ran a cable from them to the office upstairs hence that is the master !
Modem1 is a modem (MODulator/DEModulator converting data into warbling noises on the telephone), and the other two are routers.
Cat4 can't be used for connecting routers together, it needs to be Cat5. That's why they aren't talking. I don't know how good the wireless signal on a homehub is but a lot of routers supplied by phone companies can be weak - you might be able to get a better signal with a new router.
Alternatively you could run a Cat5 cable between the two, or you could use Powerline adaptors to connect the routers through your home's power cables.
Cat4 can't be used for connecting routers together, it needs to be Cat5. That's why they aren't talking. I don't know how good the wireless signal on a homehub is but a lot of routers supplied by phone companies can be weak - you might be able to get a better signal with a new router.
Alternatively you could run a Cat5 cable between the two, or you could use Powerline adaptors to connect the routers through your home's power cables.
What you're describing makes no sense.You have a single BT phone line, right? So, you can only have one Master socket (that's why it's called 'master'). You can't connect two modems to the same line, the same way you can't make two simultaneous phone calls on the same line.
You will also have only a single modem. A modem/router is the thing that connects the computer world (wifi and ethernet) to the phone system.
Your other devices will be ethernet hubs and/or wireless access points. They typically connect via ethernet cables to your modem/router.
Also, hopefully NOT Cat 4 cable. Ethernet cable should be Cat 5 or 6.
Photos of what's connected to the back of each of your Home Hubs might help us make some sense of this!
Also - how do you know that "Modem 3" has no internet? It's the only one connected to a phone line (hopefully!) so if it has no internet, where are your other "modems" getting it from?
You will also have only a single modem. A modem/router is the thing that connects the computer world (wifi and ethernet) to the phone system.
Your other devices will be ethernet hubs and/or wireless access points. They typically connect via ethernet cables to your modem/router.
Also, hopefully NOT Cat 4 cable. Ethernet cable should be Cat 5 or 6.
Photos of what's connected to the back of each of your Home Hubs might help us make some sense of this!
Also - how do you know that "Modem 3" has no internet? It's the only one connected to a phone line (hopefully!) so if it has no internet, where are your other "modems" getting it from?
Edited by silentbrown on Monday 9th April 00:04
Sorry they are all routers BT home hub 5s the master is upstairs the cat4 cable was from where it comes in from the house BT cable junction upstairs to the master socket then a router (1) then cat 5 to router (2) router 3 is basically plugged into a extension line so won’t work ? I can’t use power sockets as their are no more outlets in the hubs ??
For starters this should be in the computers gadgets section
For the second your diagram is confusing but I thin k what you want to have is
A set of routers in different parts of the house giving out a viable wifi signal
to achieve that you will need to have not in this order
1. Ethernet connection or home plug /powerline adaptor connection between the various routers
2. Only the main router should actually perform any routing duties
3. The other routers will need to act as network switches connected back to the main router either via Ethernet connection or home plug connection
4. The other routers will need to be given ip addresses within the DHCP range of the main router
5. The other routers will need to have their firewall disabled and the DHCP servers switched off amongst other things
For the second your diagram is confusing but I thin k what you want to have is
A set of routers in different parts of the house giving out a viable wifi signal
to achieve that you will need to have not in this order
1. Ethernet connection or home plug /powerline adaptor connection between the various routers
2. Only the main router should actually perform any routing duties
3. The other routers will need to act as network switches connected back to the main router either via Ethernet connection or home plug connection
4. The other routers will need to be given ip addresses within the DHCP range of the main router
5. The other routers will need to have their firewall disabled and the DHCP servers switched off amongst other things
stesrg said:
router 3 is basically plugged into a extension line so won’t work ?
An extension telephone line? No, that can't possibly work, as you already have a modem connected to the master socket.Without knowing what devices you're trying to connect to the network, whether they're wired or wireless, how your house is laid out and what the construction is, it's almost impossible to come up with sensible recommendations.
I suggest you get a friend who understands this stuff to come over and take a look.
Thanks for all replies I have ordered a Ethernet switch to fee more ports from router 1 and have also ordered a 3pin 240v power socket to plug my router number 3 in this will work my internet on the smart TV
Sorted thanks
Once someone told me I can’t run 2 routers of the same line I know understand why I had to Cat 5 my 2nd router ! It’s age and a forgetful syndrome lol
Sorted thanks
Once someone told me I can’t run 2 routers of the same line I know understand why I had to Cat 5 my 2nd router ! It’s age and a forgetful syndrome lol
You can run the home hub 5 as a router off other routers, you need to set it up properly to do so and you need to hook in the ethernet into the standard ethernet port, yellow not red from memory.
Best to ditch it all though and buy a BT Whole Home imho, hook each of these up either wirelessly or even better ethernet and you will get 1300bps in each area and all using the same wifi network.
Best to ditch it all though and buy a BT Whole Home imho, hook each of these up either wirelessly or even better ethernet and you will get 1300bps in each area and all using the same wifi network.
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