Why do people like HD?
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A while back I bought a new television which was apparently 4K. I recent weeks I e tried watching a few movies and it’s terrible. It’s turned the whole traditional movie ‘effect’ into watching early Biker Grove blended with one of those early Channel 4 art house plays.
I can’t put my finger on what has changed but it makes movies feel like seriously low budget TV.
Do people genuinely like this tech? It seems a step backwards to me.
I can’t put my finger on what has changed but it makes movies feel like seriously low budget TV.
Do people genuinely like this tech? It seems a step backwards to me.
What TV is it? You need to adjust the settings to get rid of all the image processing and artificial effects. Searching on avforums or google will get you what everything needs to be set to
What you are experiencing is known as ‘soap opera effect’.
If you are coming from a top end plasma an led set will take some getting used to, but worth it (if only for the energy efficiency!)
What you are experiencing is known as ‘soap opera effect’.
If you are coming from a top end plasma an led set will take some getting used to, but worth it (if only for the energy efficiency!)
DonkeyApple said:
A while back I bought a new television which was apparently 4K. I recent weeks I e tried watching a few movies and it’s terrible. It’s turned the whole traditional movie ‘effect’ into watching early Biker Grove blended with one of those early Channel 4 art house plays.
I can’t put my finger on what has changed but it makes movies feel like seriously low budget TV.
Do people genuinely like this tech? It seems a step backwards to me.
If you're watching something old, say from the 80's or earlier often they don't look very good upscaled massively from what could be 480 pixels high to 2160 pixels high. Newer, more modern stuff can look fantastic though.I can’t put my finger on what has changed but it makes movies feel like seriously low budget TV.
Do people genuinely like this tech? It seems a step backwards to me.
Defcon5 said:
What TV is it? You need to adjust the settings to get rid of all the image processing and artificial effects. Searching on avforums or google will get you what everything needs to be set to
What you are experiencing is known as ‘soap opera effect’.
If you are coming from a top end plasma an led set will take some getting used to, but worth it (if only for the energy efficiency!)
I’m not sure I’m interested in saving a few pennies for the amount of TV I watch. It’s a Samsung but I must confess that if a gadget needs tuning to get it to work I usually sling it as it’s just not my bag. What you are experiencing is known as ‘soap opera effect’.
If you are coming from a top end plasma an led set will take some getting used to, but worth it (if only for the energy efficiency!)
Weirdly, the normal TV channels have suddenly switched to this higher definition. Maybe the TV finally got a strong enough signal?
But I’m watching ‘Justice League’ at present and it’s not exactly a good film but it comes over like a £50 home video sort of production with some PlayStation content cut in. The terrible acting isn’t helping but it’s just weird to watch.
MissChief said:
If you're watching something old, say from the 80's or earlier often they don't look very good upscaled massively from what could be 480 pixels high to 2160 pixels high. Newer, more modern stuff can look fantastic though.
It’s modern movies. They look like 80s TV plays. No sense of cinema at all. 
DonkeyApple said:
Defcon5 said:
What TV is it? You need to adjust the settings to get rid of all the image processing and artificial effects. Searching on avforums or google will get you what everything needs to be set to
What you are experiencing is known as ‘soap opera effect’.
If you are coming from a top end plasma an led set will take some getting used to, but worth it (if only for the energy efficiency!)
I’m not sure I’m interested in saving a few pennies for the amount of TV I watch. It’s a Samsung but I must confess that if a gadget needs tuning to get it to work I usually sling it as it’s just not my bag. What you are experiencing is known as ‘soap opera effect’.
If you are coming from a top end plasma an led set will take some getting used to, but worth it (if only for the energy efficiency!)
Weirdly, the normal TV channels have suddenly switched to this higher definition. Maybe the TV finally got a strong enough signal?
But I’m watching ‘Justice League’ at present and it’s not exactly a good film but it comes over like a £50 home video sort of production with some PlayStation content cut in. The terrible acting isn’t helping but it’s just weird to watch.
Send it to me and I'll dispose of it for you.
My Sony Bravia 4k tv was unwatchable with the default settting enabled, was using amazon prime and netflix and fast paced scenes gave me motion sickness, the culprit was some of the settings hidden deep within the menu's iirc disabling 'Reality Creation' and 'Motion flow' fixed the issue.
DonkeyApple said:
It’s modern movies. They look like 80s TV plays. No sense of cinema at all.
Because everything is done on green screen now. Everything. Even simple stuff;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clnozSXyF4k
Oakey said:
DonkeyApple said:
It’s modern movies. They look like 80s TV plays. No sense of cinema at all.
Because everything is done on green screen now. Everything. Even simple stuff;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clnozSXyF4k
I do wonder when they’ll completely cut actors out and make a fully cgi’d film
These questions aren't meant to come across as condescending but are you watching 4k or even HD content? I know you said you're watching movies but how? Blu-ray? streaming service? Crappy cam copy rip off? All of these things will impact the quality of your viewing experience.
The television might be capable of displaying 4k but all it will do is highlight how s
t anything less than hd is, unless adjust the picture or at least stick to high definition content especially if it is a particularly large set. Most if not all TV's should be adjusted, its annoying seeing the crappy oversaturated, unnatural, soft edged picture people usually gush over when they get a new TV.
The television might be capable of displaying 4k but all it will do is highlight how s
t anything less than hd is, unless adjust the picture or at least stick to high definition content especially if it is a particularly large set. Most if not all TV's should be adjusted, its annoying seeing the crappy oversaturated, unnatural, soft edged picture people usually gush over when they get a new TV.Just to add to others here - the issue your experiencing is a common one known as the “soap opera effect” whereby manufacturers, for some insane reason known only to themselves, decide to artificially pump up the frame rate by default. This makes everything look like an interlaced TV show shot with a fast shutter, rather than a 25p movie as it should. Find the setting and turn it off - it has a different name depending on which idiot manufacturer you have bought - and you will find your nice new TV works as expected. The other points mentioned here are irrelevant - this is the reason your telly looks st
t untakenname said:
My Sony Bravia 4k tv was unwatchable with the default settting enabled, was using amazon prime and netflix and fast paced scenes gave me motion sickness, the culprit was some of the settings hidden deep within the menu's iirc disabling 'Reality Creation' and 'Motion flow' fixed the issue.
I’ve got one of these but I’m not feeling sick watching it. But now I’m worried I haven’t got it on the best settings..
Reality creation seems to be auto.
Some things like nature docs and some modern films look decent, but noticing every last detail of things can be detrimental and distracting in a lot of media.
It's just a staged marketing exercise, drip feeding us with increasingly higher definition displays until it's more than the human eye&brain can distinguish, then some marketing bellend will invent a reason why we need higher resolution than we can see.
It's just a staged marketing exercise, drip feeding us with increasingly higher definition displays until it's more than the human eye&brain can distinguish, then some marketing bellend will invent a reason why we need higher resolution than we can see.
You mention HD in the title but you’re going on about 4K, can you clarify what you’re on about?
If you’re watching normal TV, it’s probably not 4K content as there’s very little about yet other than a bit of football.
However, it shouldn’t look any different to HD other than an improvement in image quality, which you have to look quite hard for, in my experience.
Sounds to me like your TV needs putting on the correct setting.
If you’re watching normal TV, it’s probably not 4K content as there’s very little about yet other than a bit of football.
However, it shouldn’t look any different to HD other than an improvement in image quality, which you have to look quite hard for, in my experience.
Sounds to me like your TV needs putting on the correct setting.
4K does produce some situations where the actors in particular look a bit too real. Stuff like the grand tour had fantastic 4K scenery and cars but Clarkson looked awful.
If it’s a bit low budget 4K seems to show up dodgy effects and make up and thinks like fake sets and props. I checked out the remake of the old series monkey on Netflix and it looks terrible. It’s not very good anyway but the fake rocks and effects look laughable and the higher definition just shows it up even more.
I do think HD/UHD and hdr etc on Netflix and amazon are a massive improvement over standard or whatever it was before though. I’m not sure I’d bother to get what’s next until my tv dies.
If it’s a bit low budget 4K seems to show up dodgy effects and make up and thinks like fake sets and props. I checked out the remake of the old series monkey on Netflix and it looks terrible. It’s not very good anyway but the fake rocks and effects look laughable and the higher definition just shows it up even more.
I do think HD/UHD and hdr etc on Netflix and amazon are a massive improvement over standard or whatever it was before though. I’m not sure I’d bother to get what’s next until my tv dies.
I was sceptical that I would see much or any difference between 4k and HD given I sit further from the screen than recommended.
How wrong I was, it's like chalk and cheese.
You are aware your 4k tv will only show 4k if you feed it a 4k source don't you otherwise it will be upscaling SD or HD .
Also worth bearing in mind,if you do play with the settings most tvs require you to do it for each source,ie if you change the settings while watching Freeview that won't change the settings on HDMI usually so you have to go through the process again.
How wrong I was, it's like chalk and cheese.
You are aware your 4k tv will only show 4k if you feed it a 4k source don't you otherwise it will be upscaling SD or HD .
Also worth bearing in mind,if you do play with the settings most tvs require you to do it for each source,ie if you change the settings while watching Freeview that won't change the settings on HDMI usually so you have to go through the process again.
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