New house setup - help!

[Blackpuddin]

First off, can I apologise for what follows. Mrs B and I are very un-techy.
With any luck, virus permitting, we'll be moving soon to a place out in the sticks. It will have terrible internet (1Mb/s, according to BT). We've always wanted a nice internet-based home sound system and plan to get a specialist in to install one. Can the whizzes on here tell us if some sort of dish might boost our internet speeds to something a bit faster than letter post, and whether a sound+vision specialist would be able to do that sort of thing as part of a sound system install?
Finally, we are not powerfully built PH director types. How much might a decent system cost us? I suppose we'd be looking at speakers in the lounge, in the (big) kitchen and maybe the main bedroom for a spot of Barry White action every now and then.
I know it's all a bit 'how big is your piece of string' but we've literally got no idea and would be grateful for any ballpark advice.
Many thanks in advance to anyone who answers.

[matjk]

I’d be looking at a Sonos set up , easy to fit , sounds decent and you can have multi room , I have speakers all round the house .
Then look a getting a Spotify account, even with rubbish broadband you can still download albums to your device and playback. You could download all your favourite albums in advance .
Have you looked into what the 4G signal is like ? I get 120kb where I am, it’s actually faster than my virgin line

[Blackpuddin]

There's not even 3G where we're going just 2G, and that's limited. I'm thinking we're going to have to get satellite broadband.

[matjk]

That’s a shame as it’s very expensive and not that great . But everyone needs good WiFi it’s a basic human right !!

[miniman]

Satellite broadband works ok providing you don’t need good latency (eg for gaming). It was a while ago but I did some stuff with Tooway which worked well.

[VEX]

Is there a good service in any of the villages near by? And can you see them from you new house??

I did a similar project where BT wanted £16k to install a phone line!!!!

We did a point to point Wi-fi link to the local village and they got 30mb broadband and Voip phone service.

Just need to have friends in the nearest village.

V

[Blackpuddin]

Nearest village is 1.6 miles away has non-fibre at 11mb/s and fibre at 67. Don't know anybody there as we're new to the area. We will be in a bit of a hollow. There's no gaming requirement and we'd be happy to download any movies overnight so satellite sounds like it will have to do for us.
This next bit is going to sound horribly ignorant but on what basis does Freeview/Freesat TV work? We've got that at the moment where we are, running through a Humax. Would be nice to have that where we're going.

[miniman]

Depends which you have. If Freeview, you’ll need a good aerial; if Freesat you’ll need a dish (separate to the broadband dish I believe).

[Blackpuddin]

miniman said:

Depends which you have. If Freeview, you’ll need a good aerial; if Freesat you’ll need a dish (separate to the broadband dish I believe).

Thanks, that was my uneducated guess, given our sunken situation I'm thinking it will be Freesat so hopefully that will come with the satellite dish that it looks like we'll be getting.

[miniman]

Some useful reading here:

https://www.broadbandwherever.net/about-us/faqs/

Almost certain it’s a different dish and satellites to Sky / Freesat but the link above refers to running both TV and broadband from the same dish (albeit the broadband dish with an extra LNB)

[Blackpuddin]

Thanks Miniman

[miniman]

No worries. Found a picture of what we did, although you can't see the dish! This was doing the rounds tempting builders to find out about plasterboard by offering free wifi at builders merchants.

[Blackpuddin]

Wow that's impressive! You don't fancy setting it up outside our new house for a few years do you? We won't charge you storage or anything

[JustALooseScrew]

VEX said:

Is there a good service in any of the villages near by? And can you see them from you new house??

I did a similar project where BT wanted £16k to install a phone line!!!!

We did a point to point Wi-fi link to the local village and they got 30mb broadband and Voip phone service.

Just need to have friends in the nearest village.

V

^ This all day long. It's 100% the way to go.

I've done a few of the these types of links too.
1.6 miles is nothing for a Wireless link.

Once the restrictions lift a bit you need to start asking around and making friends. You'd be surprised at the number of people in rural locations that are willing to help out, especially from a business that you can use frequently, pub, local shop, butchers etc.

There will surely be a local installer who can set up a P2P (point-to-point) link using something like Ubiquiti NanoStations.

You can either try to negotiate a share of their existing Internet connection or pay to provide an additional connection to the premises and run your own link.

I lived and worked on the end of an essential satellite link about 12 years ago for a while and it would be my last choice of solutions given the prevalence of fibre, ASDL and decent WiFi P2P links.

(I've installed a fair bit of Ubiquiti kit and in over ten I've years never had a call out to fix it.)

[bennno]

Blackpuddin said:

First off, can I apologise for what follows. Mrs B and I are very un-techy.
With any luck, virus permitting, we'll be moving soon to a place out in the sticks. It will have terrible internet (1Mb/s, according to BT). We've always wanted a nice internet-based home sound system and plan to get a specialist in to install one. Can the whizzes on here tell us if some sort of dish might boost our internet speeds to something a bit faster than letter post, and whether a sound+vision specialist would be able to do that sort of thing as part of a sound system install?
Finally, we are not powerfully built PH director types. How much might a decent system cost us? I suppose we'd be looking at speakers in the lounge, in the (big) kitchen and maybe the main bedroom for a spot of Barry White action every now and then.
I know it's all a bit 'how big is your piece of string' but we've literally got no idea and would be grateful for any ballpark advice.
Many thanks in advance to anyone who answers.

I work in this space, sadly if you cannot get fibre broadband and you are further than optimum from the exchange then you will be limited from a speed perspective. Wont be an issue for audio, but wont work ever that well for HD video or any form of gaming or UC.

[Blackpuddin]

JustALooseScrew said:

VEX said:

Is there a good service in any of the villages near by? And can you see them from you new house??

I did a similar project where BT wanted £16k to install a phone line!!!!

We did a point to point Wi-fi link to the local village and they got 30mb broadband and Voip phone service.

Just need to have friends in the nearest village.

V

^ This all day long. It's 100% the way to go.

I've done a few of the these types of links too.
1.6 miles is nothing for a Wireless link.

Once the restrictions lift a bit you need to start asking around and making friends. You'd be surprised at the number of people in rural locations that are willing to help out, especially from a business that you can use frequently, pub, local shop, butchers etc.

There will surely be a local installer who can set up a P2P (point-to-point) link using something like Ubiquiti NanoStations.

You can either try to negotiate a share of their existing Internet connection or pay to provide an additional connection to the premises and run your own link.

I lived and worked on the end of an essential satellite link about 12 years ago for a while and it would be my last choice of solutions given the prevalence of fibre, ASDL and decent WiFi P2P links.

(I've installed a fair bit of Ubiquiti kit and in over ten I've years never had a call out to fix it.)

Very interesting thank you, I may have to invest in making friends with the local publican, shouldn't be too much of a hardship.

[Blackpuddin]

bennno said:

I work in this space, sadly if you cannot get fibre broadband and you are further than optimum from the exchange then you will be limited from a speed perspective. Wont be an issue for audio, but wont work ever that well for HD video or any form of gaming or UC.

We're going to be 11 miles from the nearest exchange. As noted earlier we don't need gaming potential so that's one thing in our favour. The only (non-fast) broadband offers I can get for our address are 1-2mb from EE and BT. There is no fibre in the village and nothing above 2G.

[VEX]

Where are you?

I know you said you were in a bit of a hollow, but could any part of your house see the viola be with fibre? Even if it was a pole else where on your land??

There are still a few options if you think outside the box.

[miniman]

VEX said:

Where are you?

I know you said you were in a bit of a hollow, but could any part of your house see the viola be with fibre? Even if it was a pole else where on your land??

There are still a few options if you think outside the box.

I reckon you'll need at least a Cello.

[Blackpuddin]

Ha, sadly it would have to be an orchestra-full of them balanced on each others shoulders for us to see the village. Our hamlet is well down in one of the smaller Welsh valleys. I have found out today however from the vendor of our house there that there has been interest from the other hamleteers in the idea of a joint effort to boost the internet speeds. I'll try and see where the land lies when we get there.