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Silver Smudger

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191 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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I have a budget DLP projector which has recently started telling me my lamp is on its way out. I have ordered a replacement online.

My question is this - Does the projector really measure the state of the lamp for this warning, or is it just based on time in service? Also, will the picture degrade as the lamp fails slowly or will the lamp just go pop one day, leaving me staring at a blank screen?

I guess what I really want to know is, do I replace the lamp as soon as it arrives, or leave it to fail, then replace?

Thanks

ymwoods

2,194 posts

201 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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It just measures the time that the lamp has been turned on, so if it is rated for 2000 hours then on the 2000th hour it will pop up saying the lamp is due to be changed (or a little before that to give warning)

Generally you can continue to keep going, the lamps generally just get dimmer and dimmer but on some models and in some cicumstances they do just go pop and stop working.

You can keep using your current one but keep the new one handy as they are ussually pretty spot on with lamp life on these things.

headcase

2,389 posts

241 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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When they go pop it has been known for them to shatter and kill the projector.

ymwoods

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201 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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headcase said:
When they go pop it has been known for them to shatter and kill the projector.
Wow really!!?? have let all of mine go pop in my projector and it's never done that...maybe its time to follow the instructions then frown

freecar

4,249 posts

211 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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ymwoods said:
headcase said:
When they go pop it has been known for them to shatter and kill the projector.
Wow really!!?? have let all of mine go pop in my projector and it's never done that...maybe its time to follow the instructions then frown
+1

I'm on my third projector and on all of them it wouldn't be possible for a severely blown bulb to "kill the projector"

OP, the bulb will noticably dim as it diminishes. My projector gives the warning at aroung 1600 hours, I reset this and it goes for normally at least 500 hours more. My new bulb (installed a week ago) was onlyinstalled after two reset cycles on the old one, no noticable dimming either, just gentle phasing between dim and not too dim.

I used a bulb element replacement this time, less than half the price of a normal bulb module and takes about five minutes to dismantle the old and reassemble the new!

Silver Smudger

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191 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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freecar said:
OP, the bulb will noticeably dim as it diminishes. My projector gives the warning at aroung 1600 hours, I reset this and it goes for normally at least 500 hours more. My new bulb (installed a week ago) was only installed after two reset cycles on the old one, no noticable dimming either, just gentle phasing between dim and not too dim.
Thanks for the info
freecar said:
I used a bulb element replacement this time, less than half the price of a normal bulb module and takes about five minutes to dismantle the old and reassemble the new!
Interesting - do you have a link?

TonyRPH

13,476 posts

192 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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We have a few projectors here at work.

Somebody once pulled the plug on one whilst it was on....

The bulb literally exploded, spreading glass all over the internals of said projector.

I opened it up and vacuumed it out, replaced the bulb and it's still working 100% 1 year on...


headcase

2,389 posts

241 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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freecar said:
ymwoods said:
headcase said:
When they go pop it has been known for them to shatter and kill the projector.
Wow really!!?? have let all of mine go pop in my projector and it's never done that...maybe its time to follow the instructions then frown
+1

I'm on my third projector and on all of them it wouldn't be possible for a severely blown bulb to "kill the projector"

OP, the bulb will noticably dim as it diminishes. My projector gives the warning at aroung 1600 hours, I reset this and it goes for normally at least 500 hours more. My new bulb (installed a week ago) was onlyinstalled after two reset cycles on the old one, no noticable dimming either, just gentle phasing between dim and not too dim.

I used a bulb element replacement this time, less than half the price of a normal bulb module and takes about five minutes to dismantle the old and reassemble the new!
There is 3 in our workshop with exploded bulbs and optical blocks damaged because of it.

tegwin

1,682 posts

230 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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I guess it depends on the projectors/bulbs... but the majority of the ones we have at work have metal shields built into the bulb to contain a catastrophic failiure..

Having said that.. I do have a budget bulb on my desk which does not have any protection atall... that WOULD make a mess of the colour wheel!

HellDiver

5,708 posts

206 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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We've a heap of Hitachi projectors here at work. They run over 12 hours a day, sometimes 24/7 when someone neglects to turn them off. Bulbs typically last 3 times longer than they're supposed to. The filters clogging up are what usually kill the bulbs in the end.

Silver Smudger

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3,376 posts

191 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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HellDiver said:
....The filters clogging up are what usually kill the bulbs in the end.
I read about filters recently and had a look at mine. I don't have any filters! (I did say it was a budget unit)

I did partially strip the casing off and hoover it out and the automatic fan runs much quieter now (goes to higher speed less often) so hopefully I have improved the cooling. I think I will leave the lamp in place until the picture deteriorates.

freecar

4,249 posts

211 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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Silver Smudger said:
freecar said:
OP, the bulb will noticeably dim as it diminishes. My projector gives the warning at aroung 1600 hours, I reset this and it goes for normally at least 500 hours more. My new bulb (installed a week ago) was only installed after two reset cycles on the old one, no noticable dimming either, just gentle phasing between dim and not too dim.
Thanks for the info
freecar said:
I used a bulb element replacement this time, less than half the price of a normal bulb module and takes about five minutes to dismantle the old and reassemble the new!
Interesting - do you have a link?
Sorry didn't see this earlier, I don't have a link, I just searched ebay with the part no (elplp39) and they came up, whole modules for about £200 or elements for about £90, it's not tricky and saved me quite a bit of cash, but I'll let you know properly in about 6-9 months when this one has worn out!

headcase

2,389 posts

241 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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I didnt realise you could just change the element, arnt they vacume sealed?
Its also worth mentioning that the reflector that is within the glass part of the bulb tarneshes, with a new one the reflector is alot brighter.

OldSkoolRS

7,085 posts

203 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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If you buy a replacement lamp, then it's a good idea to install it straight away and run it for a couple of weeks. The reason being that the warranty on a new lamp is often only 90 days from date of purcahse. If you buy it and then don't install it the warranty has expired before you've used it and you do occasionally get a duff one.

I always use a UPS with my projector to protect the lamp incase of a power cut.

freecar

4,249 posts

211 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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headcase said:
I didnt realise you could just change the element, arnt they vacume sealed?
Its also worth mentioning that the reflector that is within the glass part of the bulb tarneshes, with a new one the reflector is alot brighter.
Nope, not sealed in any way! Not that made me nervous, much! I just had to remove a couple of clips, pull out a thick glass lens and remove the old element (element consists of reflector, element and wiring to the plug) and install the new one, replacing the other bits as I went.

Silver Smudger

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3,376 posts

191 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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Freecar, thanks for the info, and OldskoolRS, thanks for the tip - I will try the new one!

Silver Smudger

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Sunday 1st May 2011
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Silver Smudger said:
I think I will leave the lamp in place until the picture deteriorates.
Just came across this thread again while searching for something else - I had forgotten that I still had a new lamp sitting on the shelf, nine months later and the original is still going...

OldSkoolRS

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203 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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I hope the new one works as it'll be out of it's warranty by now...

I ended up changing mine on my JVC HD350 after 700 hours as it was starting to get a bit too dim (I measure at the screen with a cheap light meter which confirmed the drop). The new one is much brighter of course, but also has a lot more red in it, so I could recalibrate to get to 6500K (measured) with much less dropping on the green and blue channels, which helps keep the on/off contrast as high as possible. My screen is only a 1.3 gain, but 2.8 metres wide so needs a decent lamp even with an anamorphic lens.

Silver Smudger

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Sunday 1st May 2011
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OldSkoolRS said:
I hope the new one works as it'll be out of it's warranty by now...
Yes, I took your advice and ran it for a fortnight before putting it back on the shelf
Thanks for the tip - It hadn't occurred to me

OldSkoolRS

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203 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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That's good, nasty shock if you were unlucky with a DOA lamp otherwise.