3D TV - Buy now or wait?
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Kudos

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198 months

Tuesday 30th November 2010
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Anyone got one?

Thinking of buying, not sure whether to buy or wait. Have seen a couple of decent deals lately, they seem to be well down in price.

Looked at the demo of a pana 42" in House of Fraser - £1199 inc blueray player and 2 pairs of glasses.

I bought an early LCD - only to see prices drop substantially within a couple of months.

FlossyThePig

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267 months

Tuesday 30th November 2010
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I would wait if I was you.

How did the demo compare to how you would actually watch at home? Do you stand a certain distance from the TV at home?

How much real 3D stuff is out there, filmed in 3D rather than some computer generated effect.

Will you be buying the equivalent of Betamax?

3D in cinema over the years have been short lived fads. How long will this one last?

Kudos

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Tuesday 30th November 2010
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Thanks. Was sort of what i was thinking, and yes the content is limited to date.

I'm looking a new TV and Bluray player. I could easily spend £400+ on a "standard" HD TV, £150+ on Bluray, when as I've seen Currys have a Samsung 3D with glasses + Bluray for £840 ish, so may pay the extra

NitroNick

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234 months

Kudos

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Tuesday 30th November 2010
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NitroNick said:
Interesting read. I was in the same boat until I saw one setup - admitedly they can make anything look good, but it was a good setup and I did have a "wow" moment.

Stu R

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239 months

Tuesday 30th November 2010
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I did a massive u-turn on them, thinking it was just a passing fad to hoping it isn't. I've only watched one 3D movie on it ( hehe ) but it's great for gaming, Call Of Duty: Black Ops is stunning in 3D. Not perfect by any means, but it adds a lot to the game smile

NitroNick

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Tuesday 30th November 2010
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Stu R said:
I did a massive u-turn on them, thinking it was just a passing fad to hoping it isn't. I've only watched one 3D movie on it ( hehe ) but it's great for gaming, Call Of Duty: Black Ops is stunning in 3D. Not perfect by any means, but it adds a lot to the game smile
Have you one that turns 2D input into 3D output? I haven't seen any demos of this yet. Am interested in how good it is, (i'm baffled as to how it works)
Currently (except for the gaming aspect) there isn't enough material to warrant 3D and by the time there is, the prices should be much lower. all imo.

Stu R

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239 months

Tuesday 30th November 2010
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NitroNick said:
Stu R said:
I did a massive u-turn on them, thinking it was just a passing fad to hoping it isn't. I've only watched one 3D movie on it ( hehe ) but it's great for gaming, Call Of Duty: Black Ops is stunning in 3D. Not perfect by any means, but it adds a lot to the game smile
Have you one that turns 2D input into 3D output? I haven't seen any demos of this yet. Am interested in how good it is, (i'm baffled as to how it works)
Currently (except for the gaming aspect) there isn't enough material to warrant 3D and by the time there is, the prices should be much lower. all imo.
It works, but it's not amazing, I'd still take a really good 2D TV in all honesty if picture quality and colour depth is your main concern. As you say, the volume of 3D material simply isn't there. I only really wanted it for gaming, and also to try my hand at some 3D editing. They're pretty damn good though, if you're making the transition from an average telly it's probably still a decent upgrade (3D TV can seem a bit dark though), but I wouldn't be saying swap your Pioneers and top end Panasonics for it just yet.
Mine's the Panasonic btw, the samsungs are a lot cheaper, and if I'm completely honest, from what I've seen there isn't that huge an advantage from paying more. Perhaps when the post-editing on movies and the 3D games improve, it'll be worthwhile spending top end money, but there is a teeny part of me that regrets going for the Panasonic having seen the Samsung. I'm happy enough as the standard definition 2D picture on the Panny is much better though. smile

Edited by Stu R on Tuesday 30th November 16:47

marctwo

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284 months

Tuesday 30th November 2010
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NitroNick said:
Have you one that turns 2D input into 3D output? I haven't seen any demos of this yet. Am interested in how good it is, (i'm baffled as to how it works)
Currently (except for the gaming aspect) there isn't enough material to warrant 3D and by the time there is, the prices should be much lower. all imo.
I saw a demo of a Samsung set that could do this. Personally I thought it was a total waste of time and made for quite uncomfortable viewing. Granted it works better in certain situations than others.

I agree with you. It's going to be a while before there is enough (quality) 3D content to make it worthwhile, although gaming is probably the exception to this rule.

StevieBee

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279 months

Tuesday 30th November 2010
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A good way to think of this is to think about those truly great films you've watched. Have you ever thought "mmm, what would really add to this is if it was in 3D".

I know from friends involved in the entertainment industry that the cost of shooting in 3D is huge and unless you have an Avatar, there's little chance you'd see back the investment at the box office and because the kit is at the moment, too expensive for widespread home use, unlikely to see any revenue there either.

Also, there's a world of difference between films shot in 3D and those that are rendered into 3D at post production stage.

My own take on this is that it's likely to end up being a fad. Although its good fun and would imagine certain sports would be rather good to watch in it, 3D rarely adds anything creative to film and the premium you pay is way too excessive for what you get.



Kudos

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Tuesday 30th November 2010
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Is £750 for a 36" Samsung TV with 3D really a huge premium?

I paid something like £1500 for my 32" LCD in 2004.

StevieBee

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Tuesday 30th November 2010
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Kudos said:
Is £750 for a 36" Samsung TV with 3D really a huge premium?

I paid something like £1500 for my 32" LCD in 2004.
Well, a decent 37" Samsung, non 3D can be had for around £450 - £480. Plus you need a player and the media itself.

It's not hugely significant, granted, but still a premium.

dave0010

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185 months

Tuesday 30th November 2010
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Kudos said:
Is £750 for a 36" Samsung TV with 3D really a huge premium?

I paid something like £1500 for my 32" LCD in 2004.
seeing sum of the deals they have now especially currys offering the samsung with player and glass's why not. I went into a local panasonic dealer and as much as i love them you do pay a premium on them and a 42"lcd was about £900 samsung would have my money easily at the moment

egomeister

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Tuesday 30th November 2010
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StevieBee said:
A good way to think of this is to think about those truly great films you've watched. Have you ever thought "mmm, what would really add to this is if it was in 3D".
That's exactly how I think of it.

Was having this debate at work the other day, and the consensus was that 3d was technically impressive but ultimately added little to the film itself. This was particularly true with films that had specific scenes for the 3d release.

Personally, I see the TV as a device to deliver content, and as such I tend to spend my money on films rather than the tv itself.

In the words of Bannatyne "3dtv? I'm oot!"