TVRCC CADWELL PARK TRACK DAY 30th JULY BOOK IT OR LOSE IT
Discussion
All I can do is assume that all people that now buy TVR's buy them to polish !!
The car club has just sent out 4,500 emails to TVRCC members promoting this track day.
We now have a total of 41 members who have booked.
If we can't get it to over 60, it will lose money, & there will be no more TVRCC Cadwell track days.
Total cost, including free tuition is £168.
Contact the TVRCC office on 01952 822126 or online
Ian Bannister
The car club has just sent out 4,500 emails to TVRCC members promoting this track day.
We now have a total of 41 members who have booked.
If we can't get it to over 60, it will lose money, & there will be no more TVRCC Cadwell track days.
Total cost, including free tuition is £168.
Contact the TVRCC office on 01952 822126 or online
Ian Bannister
Ian, I'm sure you've noticed but there's a long thread running on this in the general section.
For the record, I'd like to go but there's a date clash with Cadwell for me and I'll be in Denmark racing my tractor, which means it's a crying shame that the club can only sort one track day this year. If there were more events, I'd stand more chance of attending - and that could easily mean attending more than one!
For the record, I'd like to go but there's a date clash with Cadwell for me and I'll be in Denmark racing my tractor, which means it's a crying shame that the club can only sort one track day this year. If there were more events, I'd stand more chance of attending - and that could easily mean attending more than one!
You also need to bear a few things in mind though;
Cadwell is not the easiest place to get to for all members.
Not every TVR driver is into track work.
Many TVRs are too loud for the track.
A small proportion of TVRCC members won't actually be current TVR owners.
That said, best of luck getting the bookings required
Cadwell is not the easiest place to get to for all members.
Not every TVR driver is into track work.
Many TVRs are too loud for the track.
A small proportion of TVRCC members won't actually be current TVR owners.
That said, best of luck getting the bookings required
Zippee said:
You also need to bear a few things in mind though;
Cadwell is not the easiest place to get to for all members.
Totally agree - bit off the the east I suppose, but it's reasonably central in the UK. Having that said, most TDs need an overnight stop the day before unless ur really local due to the early signing-on time. clive f is coming from Isle of Wight and it's at least 3 hours away for me.Cadwell is not the easiest place to get to for all members.
Zippee said:
Not every TVR driver is into track work.
true, but if we could get just 1% of the TVRCC membership to book that would be 65 carsZippee said:
Many TVRs are too loud for the track.
My de-catted Sag passed Cadwell noise tests no problem last year (105dBA ??). A lot should be able to pass that at 4000/45000 rpm static.Zippee said:
A small proportion of TVRCC members won't actually be current TVR owners.
True.My tuppence worth - Cadwell was my very first track day ever, in a car I certainly do not want to damage. I had a great time, and I don;t think I was slow, but I was careful where it was needed (through the trees especially !!). Did I say I had a great time ?? I would recommend it to anybody.
It is also a very good price for a Track Day.
Please Please Please sign up if your are interested and can make the day - you will enjoy it.
Not everyone in the TVRCC is interested in Track Days, but that's the whole point of a great, well run Car Club - We all join for different reasons and are intrested in differnet things, and a good car club provides many different events for us to pick and choose what we wish to get involved in.
It would be a sad day if the TVR Car Club ends up not putting on a single Track Day per year (TVRCC - you need to put more effort into keeping the website up to date about Track Days in the Track Day section by the way !!)
62GRANTIII said:
All I can do is assume that all people that now buy TVR's buy them to polish !!
I assume people buy their cars to do whatever they like with them!62GRANTIII said:
The car club has just sent out 4,500 emails to TVRCC members promoting this track day. We now have a total of 41 members who have booked.
I hope you're making the same comment on your TVRCC website, you know the one with the members.62GRANTIII said:
If we can't get it to over 60, it will lose money, & there will be no more TVRCC Cadwell track days.
The polishers of course won't care less!I hopefully will be there to watch because I don't have the *desire/balls to take part, I also hope to see the legend that is 'clive f' and have a peep at his mods!
Also looking forward to watching Redspike and Clive jousting on track!
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Hi All,
I'd value a bit of guidance about this one please.
I'm sorely tempted but, as very new to both TVR and my car, is this really a suitable first track day for a total newbie? Pretty sure I should do an airfield day or two prior to venturing on track but would value some insight into others experiences.
Context is my first TVR (and only had it for a couple of months so not even done ride drive yet!)so logic says perhaps wait until next year but enthusiasm says get booked in.
Is there a slow numpties group? And I've got a RG back box (T350) so am also unsure how noisy the car is (very
). Don't want to be a rolling road block
Appreciate I'll get logical and impartial opinions here (!) but would still value some input
Many thanks
John
I'd value a bit of guidance about this one please.
I'm sorely tempted but, as very new to both TVR and my car, is this really a suitable first track day for a total newbie? Pretty sure I should do an airfield day or two prior to venturing on track but would value some insight into others experiences.
Context is my first TVR (and only had it for a couple of months so not even done ride drive yet!)so logic says perhaps wait until next year but enthusiasm says get booked in.
Is there a slow numpties group? And I've got a RG back box (T350) so am also unsure how noisy the car is (very
). Don't want to be a rolling road block Appreciate I'll get logical and impartial opinions here (!) but would still value some input
Many thanks
John
Fozzie, I have been a Chimaera owner for less than two months now, and a month ago did a track evening at Cadwell. Lovely twisty track, max you will get up to even in a T350 is about 120. It was a total blast.
Important thing is track manners. At the briefing you will be told only to overtake on the straights and on the left, and then only with the permission of the guy/gal in front, normally indicated by them indicating right and keeping right. I spent the whole evening being overtaken by Porsche GT3s, Caterhams, Lotuses, BMWs even a bloody Fiesta. Only cars who couldn't manage to get past me were a Griffith, a MX5 and a bog standard Megane. Its NOT a race, and I didn't care who overtook me. The only crash WAS the bloody Fiesta, and he was driving stupidly, overcooked it, span off to the inside of the track and slid down the grass to the tyres. The fast bends all have plenty of grass on the outside for TVR drivers whose entry speed is higher than their talent.
Like me you will start slowly - they usually do sighter laps to help you learn the track - and you too will see the skid marks going straight on into the armco on Hall Bends. You will then slowly increase your speed as you learn the lines and will have a great time. its a total hoot. If you want to learn the track first, ride shotgun with someone else for 20 minutes - me if all else fails. I will be going if the weather forecast is less than monsoon.
If you are worried, you can get trackday insurance. I don't know if the club do it, but many of the tracks do. I got mine in with my Mannings insurance. And yes, at first I was scared that I would lose the back end and spin.....but the track is a great place to find out how well you can trust your car and drive accordingly. Just make sure your wheels are well aligned, the tyre pressures are correct, and get yourself a helmet. And don't forget to take your driving licence with you.
Go do it......I don't think you will regret it.
Important thing is track manners. At the briefing you will be told only to overtake on the straights and on the left, and then only with the permission of the guy/gal in front, normally indicated by them indicating right and keeping right. I spent the whole evening being overtaken by Porsche GT3s, Caterhams, Lotuses, BMWs even a bloody Fiesta. Only cars who couldn't manage to get past me were a Griffith, a MX5 and a bog standard Megane. Its NOT a race, and I didn't care who overtook me. The only crash WAS the bloody Fiesta, and he was driving stupidly, overcooked it, span off to the inside of the track and slid down the grass to the tyres. The fast bends all have plenty of grass on the outside for TVR drivers whose entry speed is higher than their talent.
Like me you will start slowly - they usually do sighter laps to help you learn the track - and you too will see the skid marks going straight on into the armco on Hall Bends. You will then slowly increase your speed as you learn the lines and will have a great time. its a total hoot. If you want to learn the track first, ride shotgun with someone else for 20 minutes - me if all else fails. I will be going if the weather forecast is less than monsoon.
If you are worried, you can get trackday insurance. I don't know if the club do it, but many of the tracks do. I got mine in with my Mannings insurance. And yes, at first I was scared that I would lose the back end and spin.....but the track is a great place to find out how well you can trust your car and drive accordingly. Just make sure your wheels are well aligned, the tyre pressures are correct, and get yourself a helmet. And don't forget to take your driving licence with you.
Go do it......I don't think you will regret it.
Oh, and Fozzie, I was tempted by airfields, but was talking to an old hand at track days (with a supercharged VW and a Caterham) and asked him about airfields and his verdict was "don't do one without a proper roll cage - it's far too easy to roll the car on airfields, when you go too fast and slide off the edge of the hard stuff". Thought I would just pass that on. I somehow don't think the can of touchup paint I was buying off him would have been enough to deal with the damage
Hi Fozzie,
I have done two track days; a novice one at Snetterton with at least 50% non-novices and this weeks one at Castle Combe.
For me, I found the novice day an easier intro to track days and it helped that I felt like a reasonable driver.
Yesterdays one, especially with the damp track at the start of the day, was a completely different experience.
I was probably too concious of the lack of run-off but there were some seriously quick drivers out there and I didnt see a single blue flag (warning of faster car behind) all day despite me being one of the slowest on track all morning until I had some instruction.
Having an instructor guiding you, praising you when you get it right and offering advice when you dont was amazingly rewarding. A bit like golf - you dont win with the odd good shot, but lose because of too many mistakes
Using all the track, letting the car "wash out" of a corner to the edge of a line on power and holding onto to a line for a very late turn-in are what we all think we do and not everyone actually achieves it. I didnt before the lesson but did a couple of times during the first half hour.
Three more practices on my own then I had a second session with the instructor and really got the car moving about nicely.
A sessioned track day wouldnt be my choice but if this were local with instruction all day, I would be there like a shot.
I have done two track days; a novice one at Snetterton with at least 50% non-novices and this weeks one at Castle Combe.
For me, I found the novice day an easier intro to track days and it helped that I felt like a reasonable driver.
Yesterdays one, especially with the damp track at the start of the day, was a completely different experience.
I was probably too concious of the lack of run-off but there were some seriously quick drivers out there and I didnt see a single blue flag (warning of faster car behind) all day despite me being one of the slowest on track all morning until I had some instruction.
Having an instructor guiding you, praising you when you get it right and offering advice when you dont was amazingly rewarding. A bit like golf - you dont win with the odd good shot, but lose because of too many mistakes
Using all the track, letting the car "wash out" of a corner to the edge of a line on power and holding onto to a line for a very late turn-in are what we all think we do and not everyone actually achieves it. I didnt before the lesson but did a couple of times during the first half hour.
Three more practices on my own then I had a second session with the instructor and really got the car moving about nicely.
A sessioned track day wouldnt be my choice but if this were local with instruction all day, I would be there like a shot.
Fozzie73 - An airfield day is definitely less intimidating (although the surface will be more abrasive on your tyres and you’ll be more likely to get stonechips; but there is less to hit!)
But it's perhaps the tight nature of Cadwell that will concentrate your mind more; and the TVRCC day has extra free instructors, plus an extra briefing session for novices; as the Club wants to get more newbies involved and safely too. That and the fact there is likely to be more trackdayers with the same model as you, who you can talk to about mods; or perhaps ride out with; hopefully means you'll learn more about td-ing and your car if you come?
But it's perhaps the tight nature of Cadwell that will concentrate your mind more; and the TVRCC day has extra free instructors, plus an extra briefing session for novices; as the Club wants to get more newbies involved and safely too. That and the fact there is likely to be more trackdayers with the same model as you, who you can talk to about mods; or perhaps ride out with; hopefully means you'll learn more about td-ing and your car if you come?
Right - having yesterday learned that I am no longer at risk of redundancy, I am thinking of treating myself. Been pondering on a track day for a few years, but maybe now is the time. So some perhaps dumb questions, but as a newbie....:
- helmet hire - can I get one at cadwell? Guess I may need to pre-book it?
- Instruction - the comment above about free tuition is welcomed. Again need to book or is it organised on the day?
- Will the novices all be in the same group? I hope so, probably feel less intimated.
- I know I need to add some air to the tyres - would there be an airline there to use?
- Has been mentioned before that an Octane booster is probably a good idea - any recomendations on brand etc (Tamora 3.6, if it matters)
- Anything else I should do to the car before hand?
Cheers.
- helmet hire - can I get one at cadwell? Guess I may need to pre-book it?
- Instruction - the comment above about free tuition is welcomed. Again need to book or is it organised on the day?
- Will the novices all be in the same group? I hope so, probably feel less intimated.
- I know I need to add some air to the tyres - would there be an airline there to use?
- Has been mentioned before that an Octane booster is probably a good idea - any recomendations on brand etc (Tamora 3.6, if it matters)
- Anything else I should do to the car before hand?
Cheers.
- helmet hire - can I get one at cadwell? Guess I may need to pre-book it?
I will find out for you, last year the circuit were hiring them at circa £10 for the day, although you could buy a cheap motorbike helmet perhaps? (Helmets are a bit like underpants imo, you do tend to sweat quite a bit in them; so you don't always really want to wear somebodyelses.)
- Instruction - the comment above about free tuition is welcomed. Again need to book or is it organised on the day?
Done on the day.
- Will the novices all be in the same group? I hope so, probably feel less intimated.
Yes, that's why the day is sessioned. You drive in your session, then make friends and try and blag a passenger ride with somebody more experienced in another session.
- I know I need to add some air to the tyres - would there be an airline there to use?
Yes. And a petrol station.
- Has been mentioned before that an Octane booster is probably a good idea - any recomendations on brand etc (Tamora 3.6, if it matters)
I tend to just use Optimax 97/98 fuel.
- Anything else I should do to the car before hand?
You get a briefing pack from the Club with advice about what to check on the car, what to wear etc.
I will find out for you, last year the circuit were hiring them at circa £10 for the day, although you could buy a cheap motorbike helmet perhaps? (Helmets are a bit like underpants imo, you do tend to sweat quite a bit in them; so you don't always really want to wear somebodyelses.)
- Instruction - the comment above about free tuition is welcomed. Again need to book or is it organised on the day?
Done on the day.
- Will the novices all be in the same group? I hope so, probably feel less intimated.
Yes, that's why the day is sessioned. You drive in your session, then make friends and try and blag a passenger ride with somebody more experienced in another session.
- I know I need to add some air to the tyres - would there be an airline there to use?
Yes. And a petrol station.
- Has been mentioned before that an Octane booster is probably a good idea - any recomendations on brand etc (Tamora 3.6, if it matters)
I tend to just use Optimax 97/98 fuel.
- Anything else I should do to the car before hand?
You get a briefing pack from the Club with advice about what to check on the car, what to wear etc.
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