Short rant about Sky, F1, BBC, Brundle.
Short rant about Sky, F1, BBC, Brundle.
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Shane Lynch

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37 posts

250 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Just been reading the new F1 line up at Sky. I am a big F1 fan. I am still a bit angry its gone to Sky. But we have all heard these arguments.

Besides this what I have a problem with is the fact that I am feeling a bit disillusioned with F1 for the first time in my life. It started when watching the BBC forum after the Monaco GP and the Red Bull pool party. Sycophants everywhere. Where's Bernie? Lets go and like his a*se once more. All those knobs hanging round with passes round their necks and champagne in the hands. At the same time, people starving in East Africa and our economy going down the pan.

At this time, BBC's endless sycophant banter interviews with Christian smug Horner and Martin Whitmarsh.

It also started to dawn on me that Martin Brundle is actually a bit of a cock. Yes I knew he had a reputation for being one, wore a gold chain and flew helicopters. But as the season rolled on I got a bit fed up with his arrogance. Yes hes is a great analyst and presenter/commentator but all this praise he gets and Sky's attention seems to of gone to his head. Have you seen the Autosport awards chat with Jake and Steve Rider? He has turned into a pr*ck.

What else? Eddie Jordan was getting a bit tiresome towards the end, becoming a bit of a caricature - everyones best buddy in the paddock, did you see him butting in on the Ferrari press conference in Brazil on the forum?

Sick of David Croft and Davidson. Glad they are leaving the BBC. Crofty's shouty pub style and faux enthusiasm as the chequered flag goes down on another boring Vettel win. He's on BBC radio but decides to ham up the excitement. This time next year there will be a campaign to get him out of Sky.

Davidson is a failed short term F1 racer who again is smug and very annoying.

If I was a SKY subscriber I would be very worried as they have hired Natalie Pinkham aswell. But overall it has the look of a very smug and rich team.

Which is all the more funny as when the teams see the viewing figures and merchandising drop off as no one is watching it will soon be back on free to air and Brundle and the other mercenaries will try and come crawling back.

I love F1 but am starting to feel alienated just like some football fans started to feel when all money came in and they started ripping their own fans off just to make the players richer.

I must add the one positive I can see for Sky viewers the Steve Rider and Mark Blundell return. However IMO the only ones to come out with their integrity intact are Jake Humphrey and David Coulthard.


AndyACB

12,044 posts

219 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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F1 is a rich mans sport shocker! eek

VR6 Turbo

2,683 posts

176 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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I thought the coverage has been great, especially the techy stuff.

although Eddie is annoying, what does he do while the race is on? go for a wk? and those shirt's just because its pricey doesn't mean its nice.

VR

zetec02

382 posts

220 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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I think brundell is a good commentator who brings a lot to F1. Sky clearly agree and I should think most fans feel this way. I wouldn't really call Davidson a
Failed racer either

Rich_W

12,548 posts

234 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Shane Lynch said:
Just been reading the new F1 line up at Sky. I am a big F1 fan. I am still a bit angry its gone to Sky. But we have all heard these arguments.

Besides this what I have a problem with is the fact that I am feeling a bit disillusioned with F1 for the first time in my life. It started when watching the BBC forum after the Monaco GP and the Red Bull pool party. Sycophants everywhere. Where's Bernie? Lets go and like his a*se once more. All those knobs hanging round with passes round their necks and champagne in the hands. At the same time, people starving in East Africa and our economy going down the pan.
Think you're right about the hangers on.

Shane Lynch said:
At this time, BBC's endless sycophant banter interviews with Christian smug Horner and Martin Whitmarsh.
TBH, they are the 2 top teams so it's better than interviewing Tony Fernades

Shane Lynch said:
It also started to dawn on me that Martin Brundle is actually a bit of a cock. Yes I knew he had a reputation for being one, wore a gold chain and flew helicopters. But as the season rolled on I got a bit fed up with his arrogance. Yes hes is a great analyst and presenter/commentator but all this praise he gets and Sky's attention seems to of gone to his head. Have you seen the Autosport awards chat with Jake and Steve Rider? He has turned into a pr*ck.
ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON. He was cringeworthy at the AS dinner!

Shane Lynch said:
What else? Eddie Jordan was getting a bit tiresome towards the end, becoming a bit of a caricature - everyones best buddy in the paddock, did you see him butting in on the Ferrari press conference in Brazil on the forum?
I cringed at Brazil too. Some rare moments of Gold but sadly more zircons of late.

Shane Lynch said:
Sick of David Croft and Davidson. Glad they are leaving the BBC. Crofty's shouty pub style and faux enthusiasm as the chequered flag goes down on another boring Vettel win. He's on BBC radio but decides to ham up the excitement. This time next year there will be a campaign to get him out of Sky.
Crofty was still alright in my book. But I liked the Practice sessions better as he was more normal sounding.

Shane Lynch said:
Davidson is a failed short term F1 racer who again is smug and very annoying.
Agree

Shane Lynch said:
If I was a SKY subscriber I would be very worried as they have hired Natalie Pinkham aswell. But overall it has the look of a very smug and rich team.
ALL NIGHT LONG with Miss Pinkham biggrinlove

Shane Lynch said:
Which is all the more funny as when the teams see the viewing figures and merchandising drop off as no one is watching it will soon be back on free to air and Brundle and the other mercenaries will try and come crawling back.
Probably, just like the Premiership football wink

Shane Lynch said:
I love F1 but am starting to feel alienated just like some football fans started to feel when all money came in and they started ripping their own fans off just to make the players richer.
I think the BBC Forums went some way to showing the people behind the visor. money will always be money though.

Shane Lynch said:
I must add the one positive I can see for Sky viewers the Steve Rider and Mark Blundell return. However IMO the only ones to come out with their integrity intact are Jake Humphrey and David Coulthard.
Indeed. Humprey vs Brundle at Autosport just showed he was a class act compared to MB.

DanDC5

19,745 posts

189 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Just remember, you have the BBC to thank for Sky's involvement, Bernie wanted to arrange a deal with ITV or channel 4 and the BBC instead approached Sky themselves to take over their coverage. So you have the company you pay your licence fee to for making F1 coverage cost you more money.

I think Brundle and DC have made a brilliant pairing in the commentary box this year, Brundle's commentary is informative and entertaining and it's good to have DC there with an expert view on how the modern cars work and drive etc.

FamilyDub

3,587 posts

187 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Whilst I like Brundle and his way of communicating technical things in layman's terms, he's getting quite rude sometimes.

At least half a dozen times -- especially in the latter races, road weary? -- I'd have understood if DC had quietly punched him.

P K Wright

364 posts

183 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Good read. At the AS awards, Jake made Brundle look like an idiot. I had the pleasure of meeting Jake recently and I can tell you he is a really nice man, who you can tell is genuinely friendly off camera. I used to like Brundle but like you said has become too arrogant, his references to 'porno' at the awards were very cringe-worthy whilst damaging his image even further.

What I don't understand is how Bernie can say next year's deal will end up with more viewers. Those who have Sky would have watched it on BBC anyway. So, if anything, the sport will see a serious decline in the viewer numbers from the very beginning.

I'll still watch F1, but I can see BTCC becoming a bigger part of my Sundays.

anonymous-user

76 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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The BBC will still screen the British & Monace GPs. They are the only ones I watch anyway!
I'm sure if you look around you can find it on a free satellite channel like Eurosport & listen to BBC 5 live for the commentary...

Dave Hedgehog

15,667 posts

226 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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sky told me i am getting F1 HD for free

still a shambles tbh


Shane Lynch

Original Poster:

37 posts

250 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Brundle's arrogant "only got half the races" jibe to Humphrey. I say good riddance to you Brundle, Crofty, Davidson, Kravitz.

Bring back Murray Walker, Damon Hill, Nigel Mansell, Johnny Herbert. True heroes of British motorsport who will bring F1 back down to earth and not take any BS from Ecclestone or Horner and do it back to basics for the fans. I am sick of the sycophancy and mercenaries.

Crafty_

13,829 posts

222 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Someone piss on your cornflakes OP ?

The coverage this year wasn't very different from last year to be honest. The Monaco coverage was like a bad pantomime "Hey Eddie, why don't you go over there and chat to those people, *lets hope they don't throw you in that swimming pool eh* followed by nods and winks.. It all looked forced and un-natural.

The autosport awards ? erm, industry dinner, everyone is half cut.. wouldn't pay too much attention.

If you don't like anyone on the tv coverage tune in for the race with the sound muted, sorted.


Funk

27,251 posts

231 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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I'll be one of the 'lost viewers'.

P K Wright

364 posts

183 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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VR6 Turbo said:
I thought the coverage has been great, especially the techy stuff.

what does he do while the race is on? go for a wk?

VR
I'm sure he watches the race like the rest of them do.

jamiebae

6,245 posts

233 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Shane Lynch said:
Brundle's arrogant "only got half the races" jibe to Humphrey. I say good riddance to you Brundle, Crofty, Davidson, Kravitz.

Bring back Murray Walker, Damon Hill, Nigel Mansell, Johnny Herbert. True heroes of British motorsport who will bring F1 back down to earth and not take any BS from Ecclestone or Horner and do it back to basics for the fans. I am sick of the sycophancy and mercenaries.
Not convinced about Damon and Nigel as being any better. I've not met the others but Johnny is a friend-of-a-friend and I'm sure he would be great but Nige and Damon are much better behind the wheel than in front of the camera.

I think Sky have done a good job, and I'll be interested to see what the BBC do having lost their lead commentators from TV and 5 Live. Is James Allen going to make a comeback?!

MX7

7,902 posts

196 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Crafty_ said:
Someone piss on your cornflakes OP ?
That's how I see it too. It's gone. You can't do nowt about it. Either pay Sky, or don't. I'm not.

Shane Lynch

Original Poster:

37 posts

250 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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This is not a personal attack, I used to really really respect Brundle and still think his video bits behind the scenes are fascinating. But for me to really enjoy it I have to like the presenter and im sure he has come across a bit differently than in other seasons.



Interesting comment about the BTCC. What an opportunity to capitalise on falling F1 ratings. I'd love to see it stage a comeback. Shame its in an even bigger mess than F1.

jamiebae

6,245 posts

233 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Shane Lynch said:
Interesting comment about the BTCC. What an opportunity to capitalise on falling F1 ratings. I'd love to see it stage a comeback. Shame its in an even bigger mess than F1.
BTCC needs more manufacturer teams, at the moment it's a privateer series and doesn't have the calibre/recognition of drivers there. When the equivalent of Mark Webber's drive is occupied by the equivalent of Narain Karthakien then there's a problem which needs sorting out!

Le Mans Visitor

1,119 posts

224 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Funk said:
I'll be one of the 'lost viewers'.
this

slipstream 1985

13,430 posts

201 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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any you tube links about brundles comments?