Discussion
Ozmira said:
just watched this and its the saddest film i've watched for a long long time. it's not often i watch a film and get teary but this really did get me down.
Just watched Senna for the first time and I have to say it affected me the same way, very moving film, what a great man he wasEric Mc said:
I've just been watching my favourite western - "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance". My favourite line in that film is "If you can't print the truth, print the legend".
I think the same applies to "Senna".
Are you not now attempting to do the same? I think the same applies to "Senna".
(As in give YOUR own tilt on events...)
Slaav said:
Eric Mc said:
I've just been watching my favourite western - "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance". My favourite line in that film is "If you can't print the truth, print the legend".
I think the same applies to "Senna".
Are you not now attempting to do the same? I think the same applies to "Senna".
(As in give YOUR own tilt on events...)
It is a badly flawed and incomplete piece - as has been discussed in the (at least) four other threads on the film.
Eric Mc said:
Slaav said:
Eric Mc said:
I've just been watching my favourite western - "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance". My favourite line in that film is "If you can't print the truth, print the legend".
I think the same applies to "Senna".
Are you not now attempting to do the same? I think the same applies to "Senna".
(As in give YOUR own tilt on events...)
It is a badly flawed and incomplete piece - as has been discussed in the (at least) four other threads on the film.
Not sure about that. The Mrs watched this on Sun(?) and she only did so as many had commented and she had read that you don't have to be a F1 Nut to enjoy it - she isnt but did.
Admittedly she came away believing he was a Saint but there you go....
Still brillaint viewing for most who watch it I imagine.
The footage on the floor of the cutting room was something like an ADDITIONAL 5 hours.
Amazing to see the rapid evolution into what we have today in F1? Apart from simply the cars, the upgrading of the circuits was simply astonishing.
My guess is that Senna is not in your top 5 - possibly not even top 10?
and yes, we have done that to death also!
Hugely overhyped IMO, and I'm not just saying that to be contrary or for the sake of trolling. It just didn't click with me like it seems to have for so many others.
I'm glad so many people seem to enjoy it though, particularly those who don't have an interest in F1 (like my OH who thought it was great despite not having a clue who Senna was beforehand). I was a Senna fan, and I'm a huge fan of F1, but I'm firmly on the same side of the fence as Eric here.
Personally I think it'd have been much better if it was done as a series rather than a movie. If they'd had the time to give a more in-depth presentation, and cover more of the finer details rather than focussing on Ballestra and Prost so much it would have been all the better for it. I can see why they didn't - the format it's presented in makes it palatable to a much wider audience that need not necessarily be F1 fans, but the summary style just left too much out for me - far too many things brushed aside which give it a certain inherent bias. Inevitable, but it didn't sit so well with me and I'll be honest it left me feeling a bit underwhelmed and cynical about it.
Just my opinion, I still think it's a fine piece of film, just not an amazing one. Perhaps I expected too much after hearing everyone and their gatepost proclaim it's magnificence.
In this instance I'm completely happy to be in the minority though, it's won a ton of awards, has an enviable rating on IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes etc, probably given a great deal of people a much clearer insight into F1 and some of the legends of the sport, and lots of people seem to have got lots of enjoyment from it. No bad thing, each to their own, various other cliches... etc
I'll still argue 'til I'm blue in the face that TT3D knocks it into a cocked hat though.
I'm glad so many people seem to enjoy it though, particularly those who don't have an interest in F1 (like my OH who thought it was great despite not having a clue who Senna was beforehand). I was a Senna fan, and I'm a huge fan of F1, but I'm firmly on the same side of the fence as Eric here.
Personally I think it'd have been much better if it was done as a series rather than a movie. If they'd had the time to give a more in-depth presentation, and cover more of the finer details rather than focussing on Ballestra and Prost so much it would have been all the better for it. I can see why they didn't - the format it's presented in makes it palatable to a much wider audience that need not necessarily be F1 fans, but the summary style just left too much out for me - far too many things brushed aside which give it a certain inherent bias. Inevitable, but it didn't sit so well with me and I'll be honest it left me feeling a bit underwhelmed and cynical about it.
Just my opinion, I still think it's a fine piece of film, just not an amazing one. Perhaps I expected too much after hearing everyone and their gatepost proclaim it's magnificence.
In this instance I'm completely happy to be in the minority though, it's won a ton of awards, has an enviable rating on IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes etc, probably given a great deal of people a much clearer insight into F1 and some of the legends of the sport, and lots of people seem to have got lots of enjoyment from it. No bad thing, each to their own, various other cliches... etc
I'll still argue 'til I'm blue in the face that TT3D knocks it into a cocked hat though.
And as I've said before, this 45 minute tribute from 1995 by the BBC contains far more accurate information than the film. It may not pull the emotional heartstrings the way the movie does, but it is more truthful -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula...
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