Ed Chinas Maths
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silverfoxcc

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8,463 posts

175 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Now i like WD. and appreciate what it is all about, but the XJC one had me puzzled.
Ed can produce more weird and wonderful bits of kit in his Alladins cave, than the average garage wouldnt have, but i didn't think even he would have said

'Wow an induction coil heater £600.00 thats a snip. i'll get one, might come in handy one day'

Later one when using this contraption, which looks as though it will only be suitable for circular objects about 50mm in diameter, he bemoans the fact that a replacement pump will be £120.00 (bugger me the replacement seal kit was £50.00.) well sorry Ed but whip of the old, bolt on the new, pocket the £530 saved ( 600 + 50 -120) and knock an hour or two off the labout time
Downside, wouldnt be as good on TV. Will he EVER use that coil heater again?

Great series

fathomfive

11,224 posts

220 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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The good thing is you've realised it's just TV smile

Piersman2

6,676 posts

229 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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But this is something he's done more and more over the last few series, used some kind of 'special' tool or service to spice the show up a bit. Good idea, I like to see things in action in case I ever feel the need to go waste some money. smile

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

200 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Monty Don gets to spend all the program maker's money on plants for his own garden.
Ed gets to spend it on esoteric kit for his garage.

It's like MPs and expenses. Almost.

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

179 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Piersman2 said:
But this is something he's done more and more over the last few series, used some kind of 'special' tool or service to spice earn a few quid for Discovery/Edd the show up a bit. Good idea, I like to see things in action in case I ever feel the need to go waste some money. smile

t400ble

1,804 posts

151 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Induction coil heaters are great and insurance companies eye are not happy having gas bottles about the place.

CMYKguru

3,017 posts

205 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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The XJC one really showed how they get the priorities wrong even if it is just for TV

Took the manifolds to get them ceramic coated at £200 and then another £200 to paint them.

Then for other things they use £5 tin of satin black plastikote.

I remember they pulled out some kit at £5k once.

Then before that it was the Terraclean carbon deposit removed which wasn't even available to anyone at that point
He was in an advert for it soon after.

Then before that was the wheel laser thing at about £2k.

I like WD but they spend money on the wrong jobs half time and buy pointless things that add nothing to the value of the car.


DonkeyApple

69,993 posts

199 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Do they really buy them? wink

When a product that strictly isn't needed turns up on a commercial TV show then the general assumption is that it's a bit of crafty product placement.

daveofedinburgh

556 posts

149 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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It's TV. These things are done to keep the show 'fresh' and interesting.

I don't grudge them it, as they don't really claim it's a 'home mechanic' show anymore.

Would we really rather see only humble tools and rattlecans? Im sure a minority would, but I think the majority just enjoy the show for what it is.

I would agree with the point made in afew WD threads recently that they're too quick these days to just respray everything. The exception would be if the car is bought clearly in need of a respray, with Mike making this the main haggling point in the purchase. The Bentley springs to mind here, being a particularly good example as the colour change to grey really refreshed and updated the car.

Edds labour time/ charges will always be the main point of contention about the show, but then he always points out how expensive the labour would be at your local indie/ dealer/ specialist.

Ray Luxury-Yacht

8,918 posts

246 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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I took a car into a garage for some work on the front suspension arms a while ago.

When I collected it, the owner moaned that the steering rack arms were so seized, that even his fancy £800 Sykes-Pickavant induction coil heater could not shift the seized ends.

So he broke out the OXy-Acetaline torch, and did it in 5 minutes flat apparently hehe

So they're not that great it seems biggrin


kev b

2,756 posts

196 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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I have seen this scenario first-hand, young mechanic is seduced by Snap-On induction heater, boss thinks "that's great, we can get rid of the bulky, expensive, oxy-acetylene bottles", 6 months later the bottles are still there, maybe more dangerous than electricity but more versatile as well.

I have no axe to grind with induction heaters, they are superb for jobs like fitting bearings to shafts but for instant, accurate, controllable heat to an awkward exhaust manifold nut, gas is unbeatable.

ETA. IMO it is good to see Ed using different types of equipment, it may be something you will never buy yourself but if you know how it works and need it then odds are a garage nearby will have one, eg. hydraulic press, plasma cutter, spring compressor, slide hammer. Better to pay them to do a one off job that could save you butchering an expensive component without buying tools you may never need again.

Edited by kev b on Wednesday 10th September 07:16

DSLiverpool

16,506 posts

232 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Ahem - £9.99 chaps (for small nuts) biggrin

55palfers

6,374 posts

194 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Who cares? It's just enjoyable car-related telly.

The toys and tools are a bit of a diversion to illustrate some of the interesting kit that is out there.

What does his "mate" Paul (?) do when he's not lending a pair of hands - just sit about drinking tea?


vx220

2,725 posts

264 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Think it was Mike on WD who said about looking for mayo to indicate HG failure on an aircooled 911?

If there's no water, no mayo?

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

179 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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vx220 said:
Think it was Mike on WD who said about looking for mayo to indicate HG failure on an aircooled 911?

If there's no water, no mayo?
It wasn't Mike, it was a punter with a 911 whom he was interviewing.

monthefish

20,467 posts

261 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Does this really warrant a separate thread?

Riley Blue

23,205 posts

256 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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daveofedinburgh said:
Edds labour time/ charges will always be the main point of contention about the show, but then he always points out how expensive the labour would be at your local indie/ dealer/ specialist.
True but he can be way out depending on variation in hourly charges. I'd prefer it if, when totting up the costs, they included the number of hours Edd spent on the job.

DrDoofenshmirtz

16,952 posts

230 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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You know what product placement is, right?

andymc

7,621 posts

237 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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I thought Arnold Clark supplied the tools?

mcflurry

9,190 posts

283 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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They've probably done a pump change before, so this shows an alternative fix to add to their repertoire smile

The show wouldn't last very long if all they did was show an oil change each episode wink