Why is UK radio choice so pathetic?
Why is UK radio choice so pathetic?
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bloomen

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10,113 posts

189 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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The BBC does of course have its wonders, but I've never quite understood why radio in the UK so sparse compared to most other places.

If you drive around the USA you're very likely to stumble across several radio stations you want to listen to. Finding today's brain dead pop is actually something of a challenge. The chances are higher that you'll wind up listening to an older song that you know and actually like.

Similarly in Europe the sheer quantity of stations available in most places is incredible.

Where I'm at in the sticks the only radio station available outside the Beeb is Classic FM which is like the cockroach of radio. You can pick it up at the bottom of a cave system.

Even London isn't exactly heaving with quality stations. Outside London you take what scraps you can find.

How did this come about?




Challo

12,763 posts

185 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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bloomen said:
The BBC does of course have its wonders, but I've never quite understood why radio in the UK so sparse compared to most other places.

If you drive around the USA you're very likely to stumble across several radio stations you want to listen to. Finding today's brain dead pop is actually something of a challenge. The chances are higher that you'll wind up listening to an older song that you know and actually like.

Similarly in Europe the sheer quantity of stations available in most places is incredible.

Where I'm at in the sticks the only radio station available outside the Beeb is Classic FM which is like the cockroach of radio. You can pick it up at the bottom of a cave system.

Even London isn't exactly heaving with quality stations. Outside London you take what scraps you can find.

How did this come about?
Invest in DAB. Digital Radio has everything you could ever wish for.

What kind of station do you want to listen too?

bloomen

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10,113 posts

189 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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I'm referring more to driving around rather than sitting at home. You do of course have internet radio for that which opens up the whole world. And where I drive there ain't no signal to get internet radio either.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

130 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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bloomen said:
How did this come about?
Because the 1990 Broadcasting Act came about, allowing Independent National Radio, but the Radio Authority (ofcom) only allowed three stations: Classic FM, Talksport on 1089, and Absolute Radio. Of those, Absolute Radio only really works if you are London or Birmingham based on FM, though they are on 1215 AM as well

They didn't go for more, because of the cost in setting it up.

Source: Wikipedia

Dr Doofenshmirtz

16,952 posts

230 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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No idea why we put so much in terrestrial DAB when Satellite would have been a much better solution. It's used in the 'States and reception is flawless (unless you're in a tunnel or very built up area...where ground based transmitters struggle even more anyway). That's not to mention how UK DAB is crap compared to Europe's DAB. It's so bad anyone can tell the difference...not just audiophile weirdos).

NovaPower

49 posts

104 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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Upgrade your car radio to DAB.

bloomen

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Monday 12th March 2018
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Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
No idea why we put so much in terrestrial DAB when Satellite would have been a much better solution. It's used in the 'States and reception is flawless (unless you're in a tunnel or very built up area...where ground based transmitters struggle even more anyway). That's not to mention how UK DAB is crap compared to Europe's DAB. It's so bad anyone can tell the difference...not just audiophile weirdos).
Satellite is indeed incredible.

NovaPower said:
Upgrade your car radio to DAB.
Been in a couple of cars with it. It was useless.

chrisb92

1,051 posts

154 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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bloomen said:
Been in a couple of cars with it. It was useless.
My preferred station is Capital Xtra which I listen to on DAB and it's perfect. Very rarely lose signal.

Strudul

1,599 posts

115 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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I'm generally pretty happy listening to Planet Rock.

Amateurish

8,280 posts

252 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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Smartphone + Bluetooth gets you any station you might possibly need.

eldar

25,292 posts

226 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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bloomen said:
Been in a couple of cars with it. It was useless.
Why? Coverage is excellent, very few dead spots these days and plenty of choice.

Alternatively, how about podcasts?

bloomen

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eldar said:
Why? Coverage is excellent, very few dead spots these days and plenty of choice.

Alternatively, how about podcasts?
I live deep in the country with plenty of hills. It's hard enough getting any radio at home, let alone moving around. Similarly my average drive will consist of 80% of the time having no phone signal.

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

148 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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DAB is great in my car. Occasional drop out, but pretty rare. Plenty of station choice.

At home, I bought a radio that can do Internet radio, DAB, FM and Bluetooth....a world of possibilities. :-)

K50 DEL

9,752 posts

258 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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Amateurish said:
Smartphone + Bluetooth gets you any station you might possibly need.
This is the solution I'm working toward... thought DAB might be the answer but it's garbage - basically the same stations as FM, I was expecting something much closer to Sirius in the USA, which is simply brilliant with multiple stations for just about every genre you can imagine - it's my number one must have for a hire car when I'm there.

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

148 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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bloomen said:
I live deep in the country with plenty of hills. It's hard enough getting any radio at home, let alone moving around. Similarly my average drive will consist of 80% of the time having no phone signal.
So basically you're acknowledging that there is plenty of choice, but just not where you live?

eldar

25,292 posts

226 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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bloomen said:
I live deep in the country with plenty of hills. It's hard enough getting any radio at home, let alone moving around. Similarly my average drive will consist of 80% of the time having no phone signal.
Interesting. I used to live in rural West Cumbria and DAB was often better than FM.

Podcasts should be fine though.

Spx

182 posts

132 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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On top of the limited station issue is the fact that people like Simon Mayo, Jo Whiley and others are going to be transmitting until the end of time.
Job for life no matter how dull some people find you.
Why aren’t we offered more foreign stuff, I don’t have to understand the language to enjoy the sounds.

bloomen

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cbmotorsport said:
So basically you're acknowledging that there is plenty of choice, but just not where you live?
Hmm, not completely. I have an FM radio in the motor as millions of others do. Wherever I go in the country there are a tiny handful of stations compared to all the other countries I've driven around in.

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

148 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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bloomen said:
Hmm, not completely. I have an FM radio in the motor as millions of others do. Wherever I go in the country there are a tiny handful of stations compared to all the other countries I've driven around in.
Sure, but if you lived somewhere with decent DAB and cellular reception, the choice would be immense.

Have you tried putting in your postcode here: http://www.ukdigitalradio.com/

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

249 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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Challo said:
Invest in DAB. Digital Radio has everything you could ever wish for.
If you can get a signal.

I find DAB reception very hit and miss - and on some stations, the sound quality is dreadful - almost as if they have compressed the music using a very low bitrate.

The other problem with DAB vs FM is if you are in a questionable signal area - FM continues, but with intermittent crackles. Whilst this can be annoying, it’s livable. With DAB you get jarring dropouts.

Edited by Moonhawk on Monday 12th March 12:28