When a franchise should have called it a day

[Halb]

I watched a youtube video about how the Die Hard films turned to st over the years (but still made money, a 6th was on the way before the MOuse HOuse took over), and Alien was mentioned as a film that would be much better as a stand alone, sequels detract from it.

So I thought, thread! Where I would stop franchises, not choosing current ones as even a franchise that has turn to crud can still surprise and recover old ground, Rambo post Rambo III and Rocky Balboa post Rocky IV, I'm looking at you.

So;

1. Die Hard
2. Die Hard 2: Die Harder

/end. Struggled a bit here, Die Hard with a Vengeance is OK, but really, I'd prefer it to end with the first two, possibly even the first. I do like the baddies in the sequel. And from that point on, turds.

1. ALIEN
2. ALIENS

/end. There are aspects of ALIEN³ I think are decent, but even back then Empire showed what a stshow the production had turned into, that might have been when I became really interested in how films are put together. I actually also like Alien Resurrection, but it's not needed. From there on, turds. although AVP is fun though moronic

1. The Terminator
2. Terminator 2: Judgment Day

/end. I also rather like Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, and it has the best/joint? ending, but it's not needed and as a duology, the first two films are better seen, in my opinion. After that, turds.

1. Predator

/end. Predator 2 is fun, but it's all so samey/derivative/plain old ste from there on. Not seen the latest...I'd had enough of wasting my money on franchises that should have died years ago for that.

1. Star Wars
2. The Empire Strikes Back
3. Return of the Jedi
4. Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure...let it go, Indiana...let it go.

/end


what are yours?

Edited by Halb on Saturday 29th February 17:41

[Castrol for a knave]

Hangover 2, watched 20 minutes and walked out the building it was so st.

Then remembered I was at home and had to ask the wife to let me back in.

[slipstream 1985]

See the Rocky films is a strange one.

2 is the same as 1
3 is a stallone fest
4 is a meme music montage liche great
5 is terrible but by releasing
6 Balboa is brilliant and makes 5 all the better as good backstory

[jet_noise]

Beverly Hills Cop.

[Halb]

jet_noise said:

Beverly Hills Cop.

I wondered about that one, I can tell you the story of the first, who was in the second, and I can remember one scene from the third and that it was purposely changed in direction, like the Lethal Weapon weapon series.
I think I'd need to watch 2&3 to decide.

[strummerville]

Mad Max
Mad Max 2

No need for the Tina Turner ‘Jolly Hollywood’ one, or the remake of the end of Mad Max2 with Tom Hardy.

[jet_noise]

Halb said:

jet_noise said:

Beverly Hills Cop.

I wondered about that one, I can tell you the story of the first, who was in the second, and I can remember one scene from the third and that it was purposely changed in direction, like the Lethal Weapon weapon series.
I think I'd need to watch 2&3 to decide.

I didn't know there were more than two!

[vixen1700]

Highlander II.

Biggest ever cinema dissapointment.

[Teddy Lop]

Found both "cowboys v aliens" and terminator (4?) dire.

Mind I'm find most action movies pretty shonky these days - its like they can't make a good honest yarn any more, every action movie just seems preposterous, overblown cgi and no sympathetic character portrayal, maybe its more a case of that than just tired franchises as such.

[MissChief]

vixen1700 said:

Highlander II.

Biggest ever cinema dissapointment.

It’s been declared not even Canon and forgotten about.

[AJB88]

jet_noise said:

Beverly Hills Cop.

Disagree, I only watched 1&2 because I had watched 3 on screen as a kid.

[Dr Jekyll]

Butterfly effect. 1 is good, 2 and 3 terrible.

[anonymous-user]

I prefer the later Stars wars to older stuff.

Beverley hills cop after 2.

Back to the future after 2.

After 1st Rambo.

[sandman77]

Indiana Jones - should never have made the 4th one.

[cuprabob]

vixen1700 said:

Highlander II.

Biggest ever cinema dissapointment.

What did you expect? "There can only be one..."

[Halb]

sandman77 said:

Indiana Jones - should never have made the 4th one.

I thought about that one, but since it's an ongoing franchise, if they make 5 and it's amazing, I can forgiveforget all about 4.

Teddy Lop said:

Found both "cowboys v aliens" and terminator (4?) dire.

Mind I'm find most action movies pretty shonky these days - its like they can't make a good honest yarn any more, every action movie just seems preposterous, overblown cgi and no sympathetic character portrayal, maybe its more a case of that than just tired franchises as such.

Why mention Cowboys and Aliens?

[Teddy Lop]

Halb said:

Why mention Cowboys and Aliens?

I assumed it was part of the alien franchise, tbf i was on a jet and turned it off after 10 or 20 mins.

[Zarco]

Teddy Lop said:

Halb said:

Why mention Cowboys and Aliens?

I assumed it was part of the alien franchise, tbf i was on a jet and turned it off after 10 or 20 mins.

[Zarco]

strummerville said:

Mad Max
Mad Max 2

No need for the Tina Turner ‘Jolly Hollywood’ one, or the remake of the end of Mad Max2 with Tom Hardy.

Absolutely.

Really don't get the love for Fury Road (or Tom Hardy for that matter).

[anonymous-user]

John Wick. Really enjoyed the first one, second one was meh and turned the third one off after half an hour