Life under the waves - C5
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fourstardan

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6,203 posts

167 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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No idea why the Aussies and Yanks want to share our submarine capabilities the one on C5 they are covering is falling to bits by all accounts.

It's a great documentary, there is something about submarines.

Are some of these emergencies really just drills?

jtremlett

1,609 posts

245 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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It is very old and about to be decommissioned imminently, so hopefully it doesn't indicate all the rest of the Royal Navy is in a similar state.

anonymous-user

77 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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I've not seen this, which specific boat is being featured and is "falling apart"?

FourWheelDrift

91,821 posts

307 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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MikeStroud said:
I've not seen this, which specific boat is being featured and is "falling apart"?
32 year old HMS Trenchant. Currently laid up awaiting decommissioning.


HarryW

15,827 posts

292 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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Enjoyed that, yes Trenchant was old and overdue the scrap heap, but still very capable on a world ranking. Understand the Astutes are on another level. Anything the Aussies get will have the Astutes as a minimum baseline. The U.K. will already be starting the initial work on the Astute replacements even today.

I dare say the programme filming would have been heavily edited and redacted. Probably not shown 1/10 of it. the narrative it followed and what was shown is more akin to a movie script no doubt too, entertaining nonetheless with the T23 coming over the horizon, whereas she was probably tracking it all along 😂.

anonymous-user

77 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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fourstardan said:
No idea why the Aussies and Yanks want to share our submarine capabilities the one on C5 they are covering is falling to bits by all accounts.

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The Astute class is world beating.

Don't make your judgement on Trenchant alone.

Glade

4,481 posts

246 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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Just watched this and thought the same... preparing to go silent, the XO was walking around rattling hand rails, wall panels, equipment hanging on hooks. Lol. "Going to have to stick a wooden wedge in that"

I was thinking bloody hell, I thought they'd be better designed than that... but hearing it's 32 years old and now out of service makes a bit more sense!

belleair302

6,995 posts

230 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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There was an article somewhere over the weekend that the Royal Navy has commissioned a design project for new attack submarines for delivery in 2040! Some lead time there.

fourstardan

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6,203 posts

167 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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Glade said:
Just watched this and thought the same... preparing to go silent, the XO was walking around rattling hand rails, wall panels, equipment hanging on hooks. Lol. "Going to have to stick a wooden wedge in that"

I was thinking bloody hell, I thought they'd be better designed than that... but hearing it's 32 years old and now out of service makes a bit more sense!
It felt like something out of a ww2 U boat film...drills going down the toilet not detectable as well lol.

They are amazing pieces of engineering, I must get down to the submarine museum in Portsmouth.

FourWheelDrift

91,821 posts

307 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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Having working toilets onboard is a very important part of the self defence of the sub. If they find they are being followed they flush all the toilets and escape, like an squid squirting ink. Especially if the Russians follow them on a Sunday after Steak Saturday.

fourstardan

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6,203 posts

167 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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FourWheelDrift said:
Having working toilets onboard is a very important part of the self defence of the sub. If they find they are being followed they flush all the toilets and escape, like an squid squirting ink. Especially if the Russians follow them on a Sunday after Steak Saturday.
I felt sorry for the poor sod unblocking it then being charged to steer the bloody thing and then the captain wondering why he'd fked up lol

pquinn

7,167 posts

69 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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Was quite funny how they completely skipped over why there was an sudden change of captain. Like he never existed.


normalbloke

8,465 posts

242 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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pquinn said:
Was quite funny how they completely skipped over why there was an sudden change of captain. Like he never existed.
He was sacked for holding a bbq during lockdown for his crew.

Glade

4,481 posts

246 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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I was expecting the bad air sensor to be caused by a release from the plumbing.

Got the feeling that that was not the first time that stter got blocked.... get the acid out, this one's a big one!!

DJFish

6,009 posts

286 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2021
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Anyone else notice the two shoreside contractors on board to fix the loo whilst the sub was supposedly at depth in the North Atlantic?

DJFish

6,009 posts

286 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2021
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normalbloke said:
pquinn said:
Was quite funny how they completely skipped over why there was an sudden change of captain. Like he never existed.
He was sacked for holding a bbq during lockdown for his crew.
Can’t imagine that’s easy on a sub, it’d be a bugger to light….

Ben Jk

1,714 posts

189 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2021
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normalbloke said:
pquinn said:
Was quite funny how they completely skipped over why there was an sudden change of captain. Like he never existed.
He was sacked for holding a bbq during lockdown for his crew.
The first captain on the programme wasn't the one who was sacked.

fourstardan

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6,203 posts

167 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2021
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DJFish said:
Anyone else notice the two shoreside contractors on board to fix the loo whilst the sub was supposedly at depth in the North Atlantic?
They got shipped in like the bird on Vigil.....

When finished they just flushed them down the new unblocked bogs.

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey

7,284 posts

78 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2021
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HarryW said:
Enjoyed that, yes Trenchant was old and overdue the scrap heap, but still very capable on a world ranking. Understand the Astutes are on another level. Anything the Aussies get will have the Astutes as a minimum baseline. The U.K. will already be starting the initial work on the Astute replacements even today.

I dare say the programme filming would have been heavily edited and redacted. Probably not shown 1/10 of it. the narrative it followed and what was shown is more akin to a movie script no doubt too, entertaining nonetheless with the T23 coming over the horizon, whereas she was probably tracking it all along ??.
Astute started life as Batch 2 Trafalgar... Gives you an idea of how long these things can take to design.

Materiel design is a race of who can make the least obsolete bit of kit.

I'd love to have chat with folks in the US who've just designed, built, and flown the F22 replacement demonstrator in a year. That is seriously impressive, even if it's just airframe and FCS.

Ash_

5,965 posts

213 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2021
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take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:
Astute started life as Batch 2 Trafalgar... Gives you an idea of how long these things can take to design.

Materiel design is a race of who can make the least obsolete bit of kit.

I'd love to have chat with folks in the US who've just designed, built, and flown the F22 replacement demonstrator in a year. That is seriously impressive, even if it's just airframe and FCS.
Got a link please, my Google-Fu isn't working.