BBC Regional news finally on HD!
BBC Regional news finally on HD!
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Lordbenny

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8,733 posts

242 months

Wednesday 26th January 2022
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No more barking dogs and having to change channels when London news comes on.

Mind you, I’ve pretty much given up on BBC news altogether, still it’s nice nice to have to constantly change channels now.

Eric Mc

124,753 posts

288 months

Wednesday 26th January 2022
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I can only sympathise. It's such a struggle having to press a few buttons on a hand controller. It wears me out.

I honestly don't know how my parents coped with having to get out of their chairs and walk over to the TV in order to change channels. It must have been murder.

JoshSm

3,366 posts

60 months

Wednesday 26th January 2022
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Eric Mc said:
I can only sympathise. It's such a struggle having to press a few buttons on a hand controller. It wears me out.

I honestly don't know how my parents coped with having to get out of their chairs and walk over to the TV in order to change channels. It must have been murder.
This probably sounded cleverer in your head, and maybe should've stayed there.

speedking31

3,810 posts

159 months

Wednesday 26th January 2022
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Is this all regions?

For years I've been waiting for this. I would have preferred that they rotate around the regions every week so at least occasionally you got your local programme. Bizarrely they still used to manage to trail the local news on HD so it wasn't a technical issue, just keeping some odd promise.

droopsnoot

14,121 posts

265 months

Wednesday 26th January 2022
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North West Tonight announced a few months ago that it was "coming soon", but they didn't say when. I don't recall hearing anything about it in the last few days, but I'm only ever half-listening to it. But sounds as if it's all regions, if we're getting it.

StevieBee

14,801 posts

278 months

Wednesday 26th January 2022
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Back in the day, regional TV and news was a much bigger deal than it is now with fully functioning studios and production facilities. Not just BBC but ITV as well (Sale of the Century started with the immortal phrase.... From Norwich...!)

Most of that went years ago. Apart from the major hubs, most local BBC News programmes are broadcast from a shoe-box room in a BBC Local Radio building using nothing other than green screen and a single light. Most often the presenter operates the camera themselves.

I'm rather partial to the BBC Look East weather girl Elizabeth Rizzini and am certain I saw a social media post showing her doing the weather from a studio in her garage at home!

Big Nanas

3,542 posts

107 months

Wednesday 26th January 2022
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StevieBee said:
Back in the day, regional TV and news was a much bigger deal than it is now with fully functioning studios and production facilities. Not just BBC but ITV as well (Sale of the Century started with the immortal phrase.... From Norwich...!)

Most of that went years ago. Apart from the major hubs, most local BBC News programmes are broadcast from a shoe-box room in a BBC Local Radio building using nothing other than green screen and a single light. Most often the presenter operates the camera themselves.

I'm rather partial to the BBC Look East weather girl Elizabeth Rizzini and am certain I saw a social media post showing her doing the weather from a studio in her garage at home!
The weather presenters had to start doing their reports from home when Covid started. Kate Kinsella (another BBC regional weather presenter) often posts Instagram/Twitter pics of her home set-up with big green screen.
Recently she's posted that they're starting to return to the main studios, and you'll see a wide shot as the weather is announced showing both presenters in the same space... (all fascinating, of course! biggrin)

Edited by Big Nanas on Wednesday 26th January 12:12

MattyD803

2,242 posts

88 months

Wednesday 26th January 2022
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I was always amazed there wasn't an "auto change over" feature built in to the broadcast, or even just offer up a red button press to swap to local news? Failing that, just show the London news for the sake of not having a silly red screen with backgrounds, birds and dogs sounds....

I'm sure there is a good reason behind it somewhere, but cant believe it has taken this long to sort.

bloomen

9,329 posts

182 months

Wednesday 26th January 2022
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Lordbenny said:
No more barking dogs and having to change channels when London news comes on.
I've no idea what this means, but it says something that we're now having 8k TVs pushed on us when HD is just about to become a thing in this instance.

Scrump

23,713 posts

181 months

Wednesday 26th January 2022
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MattyD803 said:
I was always amazed there wasn't an "auto change over" feature built in to the broadcast, or even just offer up a red button press to swap to local news? Failing that, just show the London news for the sake of not having a silly red screen with backgrounds, birds and dogs sounds....

I'm sure there is a good reason behind it somewhere, but cant believe it has taken this long to sort.
Not sure how true this is but I recall hearing that the reason was due to technical difficulties in being able to transmit local news in HD on freesat. The BBC had a policy of transmitting the same across all transmission platforms so until all had the ability to transmit local HD then none would be allowed to do so.

Antony Moxey

10,272 posts

242 months

Wednesday 26th January 2022
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I've always wondered why they don't just show the normal regional SD broadcast on the HD channel so you don't have to change from (on Sky) Ch. 115 to Ch. 101. I guess there must be a technical reason?

Hill92

5,192 posts

213 months

Wednesday 26th January 2022
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Scrump said:
Not sure how true this is but I recall hearing that the reason was due to technical difficulties in being able to transmit local news in HD on freesat. The BBC had a policy of transmitting the same across all transmission platforms so until all had the ability to transmit local HD then none would be allowed to do so.
I heard they have to have a separate version of BBC1 for each region on satellite and that used up capacity/cost more. That was manageable with SD but HD was too much. Hence they only did it at the BBC Nations level.

Whereas with terrestrial (and cable/internet) they only have to broadcast the local region.

tonyvid

9,889 posts

266 months

Wednesday 26th January 2022
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Eric Mc said:
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I honestly don't know how my parents coped with having to get out of their chairs and walk over to the TV in order to change channels. It must have been murder.
That was easy, they told us kids to get off the sofa to change the channel to one of the other 2...

DoctorX

7,976 posts

190 months

Wednesday 26th January 2022
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I don't care as long as I don't have to listen top that fking music ever again.

MC Bodge

27,404 posts

198 months

Wednesday 26th January 2022
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Lordbenny said:
No more barking dogs and having to change channels when London news comes on
Wowzers!

I refuse to believe it. Really?

What a world we live in today.....

I don't often watch TV news nowadays (we have a kitchen radio, obviously), but when I do North West Tonight not being present on HD always seemed a faff.

Edited by MC Bodge on Wednesday 26th January 13:42

Eric Mc

124,753 posts

288 months

Wednesday 26th January 2022
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tonyvid said:
Eric Mc said:
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I honestly don't know how my parents coped with having to get out of their chairs and walk over to the TV in order to change channels. It must have been murder.
That was easy, they told us kids to get off the sofa to change the channel to one of the other 2...
We were banned from "twiddling the knobs".

StevieBee

14,801 posts

278 months

Wednesday 26th January 2022
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MattyD803 said:
I was always amazed there wasn't an "auto change over" feature built in to the broadcast, or even just offer up a red button press to swap to local news? Failing that, just show the London news for the sake of not having a silly red screen with backgrounds, birds and dogs sounds....

I'm sure there is a good reason behind it somewhere, but cant believe it has taken this long to sort.
I suspect the issue is defining the territory. In the days of transmission, it was a simple case of switching the source transmitter so if you fell within the reach of a particular transmitter that would determine what news you got to see. On the borders between transmitters, you're have odd anomalies caused by weather. Growing up in SW Essex, we regularly got Anglia, London and TVS broadcasts in a single week.

Most TV content gets to us these days via satellite and / or cable. The only way to define location is correlating the content with a subscriber database - rather than physical location. Sky will have that information but unlikely they'd be sharing it with anyone else.

Hill92

5,192 posts

213 months

Wednesday 26th January 2022
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StevieBee said:
I suspect the issue is defining the territory. In the days of transmission, it was a simple case of switching the source transmitter so if you fell within the reach of a particular transmitter that would determine what news you got to see. On the borders between transmitters, you're have odd anomalies caused by weather. Growing up in SW Essex, we regularly got Anglia, London and TVS broadcasts in a single week.

Most TV content gets to us these days via satellite and / or cable. The only way to define location is correlating the content with a subscriber database - rather than physical location. Sky will have that information but unlikely they'd be sharing it with anyone else.
That's actually fairly easy - just have the EPG software on the receiver prompt the user to select their region. They already do that for the SD versions.

peterg1955

746 posts

187 months

Wednesday 26th January 2022
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tonyvid said:
Eric Mc said:
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I honestly don't know how my parents coped with having to get out of their chairs and walk over to the TV in order to change channels. It must have been murder.
That was easy, they told us kids to get off the sofa to change the channel to one of the other 2...
Wait, you had 3 channels to choose from.... I'm not sure our first TV had that many and anyway, my Mum didn't like ITV... it was 'common' laugh

Speed1283

1,191 posts

118 months

Wednesday 26th January 2022
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DoctorX said:
I don't care as long as I don't have to listen top that fking music ever again.
Lol, I completely get it, it seemed ridiculous to me that this day in age if you are watching it on HD an the moment it flips to local news you get that damn dog and/or music. It was the same if you watch it on iPlayer