Why do they crank up the volume for the adverts
Why do they crank up the volume for the adverts
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Adrian W

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15,059 posts

251 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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Film 4 are the worst but they are all doing it, I’m watching a film or TV program, the surround sound is on and bang the adverts cone on at twice the volume, it’s bloody annoying

Smoggy XJR

552 posts

93 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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As is the volume of conversation against action sequences.

NMNeil

5,860 posts

73 months

Panamax

8,083 posts

57 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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As it happens, the broadcasting code (or whatever it's called) forbids turning up the volume during ad's. But you're absolutely right, some of the channels push the rules to absurd extremes.

Part of the reason they get away get away with it is a thing called "dynamic range". In most of the modern world sound is compressed and adjusted so that everything is at a comfortable loudness. (iPod and MP3 played a big part in this.) However, in the cinema there's a much wider dynamic range and movies are shown with quiet bits you can still hear, normal bits which are clearly audible and VERY LOUD BITS as well. The TV channels claim that when they show a movie on TV their ad's are no louder than the loudest bits of the movie - even though those loud bits may represent only a fraction of the whole.

Practical answer? Record everything and watch it on replay, skipping the ad's.

MitchT

17,089 posts

232 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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Strictly speaking they're not turning the volume up, they mastering the audio to be louder. The peaks are no higher but the lows have been raised to be closer to the peaks (and everything in between has been squashed accordingly), so it sounds like the volume has been turned up. It's bloody annoying.

Adrian W

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15,059 posts

251 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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MitchT said:
Strictly speaking they're not turning the volume up, they mastering the audio to be louder. The peaks are no higher but the lows have been raised to be closer to the peaks (and everything in between has been squashed accordingly), so it sounds like the volume has been turned up. It's bloody annoying.
Annoying is an understatement, its noticeable with the TV sound but when the AV system is on its a race for the remote, the amp is fairly powerful (Nad M25) so the lift in volume is massive, maybe recording is the only answer, Film four are easily the loudest.

Panamax

8,083 posts

57 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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Here we go with chapter and verse from the British Code of Advertising Practice,

"Advertisements must not be excessively noisy or strident. The maximum subjective loudness of advertisements must be consistent and in line with the maximum loudness of programmes and junction material."

Ransoman

884 posts

113 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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Go into the audio options on your tv and turn off "High dynamic range".

Beati Dogu

9,348 posts

162 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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I just mute the sound when adverts come on. Not that I watch much TV.

DaveGrohl

1,007 posts

120 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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I honestly don’t know why anyone watches anything live. Just record everything and adverts aren’t an issue to start with.

Funk

27,295 posts

232 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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Ransoman said:
Go into the audio options on your tv and turn off "High dynamic range".
That won't have any effect on what the ads are doing unfortunately.

thegreenhell

21,735 posts

242 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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It seems to me that C4/Film4, for they are the worst culprits, especially in HD, appear to reduce the sound volume of their films rather than increase the volume for the ads. I usually find I have to increase the sound to hear the dialogue properly on their films, which makes the ads seem louder than they otherwise would be. I don't have this issue on other non-film shows or other channels.

bearman68

4,915 posts

155 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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God, I thought it was just me going deaf. (And it might be), but the bloody speaking bits are lost against the background music, or noise, or usually gun fire. frown
On a different note, I've been watching 'Yes prime minister' on iplayer. What fantastic dialogue in that, and no problem hearing it.

anonymous-user

77 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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This has been a thing for at least 40 years.

The real question is how the OP has only just noticed.

Adrian W

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15,059 posts

251 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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BlackWidow13 said:
This has been a thing for at least 40 years.

The real question is how the OP has only just noticed.
I said it’s getting worse, but a powerful AV system makes the effect much worse

Esceptico

8,897 posts

132 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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What annoys me more are movies where the dialogue is low/mumbled so difficult to hear yet the volume of action sequences is almost enough to make you deaf: I’m looking at you Tenet!

Ransoman

884 posts

113 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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Funk said:
That won't have any effect on what the ads are doing unfortunately.
It will do the opposite. It will raise the volume of the film quite considerably so you will have the tv volume on lower as a result.

Donbot

4,194 posts

150 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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Search for 'the loudness war' for a technical explanation.

Also make sure all your settings are correct. Eg. Something encoded for surround sound tends to have excessive dynamic range if played using two channels.

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

106 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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I think good old terrestrial tv has some rules. Meanwhile the wild west internet has none.
Youtube video has the sudden advert at 3 times the volume . Google do evil is the mantra they peddle I think.
No chance I would buy a product that blasted my ears google tts in your big empty fancy hq cos u are all sat at home lol.