TV Licence
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Lordbenny

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8,733 posts

241 months

Thursday 11th August 2022
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I pay the BBC £41 a quarter for a service that I am now realising that I don’t use enough to warrant the money they are taking from me!

I used to enjoy BBC sport…they haven’t got any sport worth watching anymore.

I was informed of current affairs from various BBC news outlets….I now realise that the BBC has its own left wing, woke agenda that I really don’t agree with so I get my news elsewhere.

I enjoyed the BBC comedy programmes….there is nothing in the BBC that is vaguely funny anymore.

I watched documentaries….there’s none of them anymore either.

So, apart from 6 Music’s Lauren Lavern show which is still interrupted by BBC news every half hour for some inexplicable reason…why am I paying my licence fee?

Has anyone else decided enough was enough and cancelled their direct debit! I’m certainly thinking about it!

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,697 posts

257 months

Thursday 11th August 2022
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Because you've been asked to pay?

You can go all year & not watch BBC, but still need to pay. (there's no relationship)

For me it's the best tax we pay. One side with no ads makes less ads on t'other sides.

Have you ever tried to watch TV in the USA?




RoadToad84

903 posts

56 months

Thursday 11th August 2022
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I've never had a TV licence. Admittedly I don't have a TV, but do watch the odd program online.

This has never been questioned, beyond having to fill in a form to confirm I'm not watching live TV/iPlayer etc.

As I understand it, TV Licensing have no ability to enforce licence payment beyond sending letters and requesting access to your home to check.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,697 posts

257 months

Thursday 11th August 2022
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There's been approximately 1.7 zillion threads on PH about the TV licence.

The answer is always the same hehe

Lordbenny

Original Poster:

8,733 posts

241 months

Thursday 11th August 2022
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
There's been approximately 1.7 zillion threads on PH about the TV licence.

The answer is always the same hehe
Enlighten me!

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,697 posts

257 months

Thursday 11th August 2022
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Lordbenny said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
There's been approximately 1.7 zillion threads on PH about the TV licence.

The answer is always the same hehe
Enlighten me!
The licence fee you pay is a tax to watch live broadcasts in the UK. The fact that it's supposed to be used to fund the BBC does not link watching the BBC to paying for the licence.

Most upstanding folk pay the licence because it's the right thing to do. (and it's coppers).

There's always folk who watch live TV 27 hours a day, and have done since 1954 and have never had a licence. (and they've never been fined etc)

Half call it a license, which annoys the other half hehe.

Much bickering ensues. biggrin

And, life goes on.

There y'go. I've saved you pages of analysis. thumbup




Edited by 2 sMoKiN bArReLs on Thursday 11th August 20:29

Cold

16,374 posts

112 months

Thursday 11th August 2022
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There's recently been increased noise about lumping it onto a household's council tax.

The Mad Monk

10,974 posts

139 months

Friday 12th August 2022
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I am in my late 80s. I used to have a free licence until a year or so back.

The free licence was abolished and I was invited to pay by a number of different ways. I chose the direct debit method. I am now thinking of stopping payment. I understand they do not prosecute previous free TV licence holders.

I could suggest the take the money for my licence out of Gary Lineker's £1.3 million a year.

Quite serious.

What do you think?

TwigtheWonderkid

47,818 posts

172 months

Friday 12th August 2022
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The Mad Monk said:
I am in my late 80s. I used to have a free licence until a year or so back.

The free licence was abolished and I was invited to pay by a number of different ways. I chose the direct debit method. I am now thinking of stopping payment. I understand they do not prosecute previous free TV licence holders.

I could suggest the take the money for my licence out of Gary Lineker's £1.3 million a year.

Quite serious.

What do you think?
I think it was always ridiculous to give free tv licences to the elderly. Not all elderly are poor, in fact most I know are quite well off. Many of those that aren't are struggling trying to live in a big house they no longer need, which is a lifestyle choice. I fail to see why Rupert Murdoch should get a free tv licence. In fact, maybe he should pay for yours instead of Gary Lineker.

SmoothCriminal

5,763 posts

221 months

Friday 12th August 2022
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So they can't host eurovision in Ukraine because of obvious so like we always do we offered to host it like rejects just read its going to cost the BBC between 8 and 16 million pounds to host it.

Yet they can't give free licences to pensioners because their finances are so dire.

When you see the content the subscription services pump out and then the ste the BBC does you do wonder why most people still pay it.

TEKNOPUG

20,221 posts

227 months

Friday 12th August 2022
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44p a day for CBeebies is an absolute bargain.

Dingu

4,893 posts

52 months

Friday 12th August 2022
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SmoothCriminal said:
So they can't host eurovision in Ukraine because of obvious so like we always do we offered to host it like rejects just read its going to cost the BBC between 8 and 16 million pounds to host it.

Yet they can't give free licences to pensioners because their finances are so dire.

When you see the content the subscription services pump out and then the ste the BBC does you do wonder why most people still pay it.
Worth remembering the root cause of the free licences being removed was the government. They just passed on the decision to the BBC to shirk responsibility themselves!

Brummiebeau

1,161 posts

114 months

Friday 12th August 2022
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TEKNOPUG said:
44p a day for CBeebies is an absolute bargain.
This.

And I watch a lot of live sport. Yes it irks me to pay to watch TV, But I don't pay for netflix, amazon, youtube and the likes so it works out I guess.

Mr Penguin

4,078 posts

61 months

Friday 12th August 2022
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The Mad Monk said:
I am in my late 80s. I used to have a free licence until a year or so back.

The free licence was abolished and I was invited to pay by a number of different ways. I chose the direct debit method. I am now thinking of stopping payment. I understand they do not prosecute previous free TV licence holders.

I could suggest the take the money for my licence out of Gary Lineker's £1.3 million a year.

Quite serious.

What do you think?
I believe they only prosecute the vulnerable who they think will instantly confess in court.

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

68 months

Friday 12th August 2022
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There is lots of confusion about this, mainly due to Crapita being the ones sending the goons and people thinking you need a licence to watch any tv, you don't. And having been a multiple victim of Capita scams such as false licence for rented houses and made up transactions being used to suggest you need one, I did my research and found out the truth.

Some people even think you need a licence to watch Youtibe or Netflix you don't.

You only need a licence to watch tv as it is being transmitted, BBC were clever by somehow including Iplayer into this a few years ago, meaning you cannot watch Iplayer without a licence, so... dont watch I player. Anything else you watch is fine on catchup.

If a goon turns up, dont say anything, dont reveal your name or anything, simply ask them who they represent, and politely say you do not wish to talk to them, they have zero power, unless they can SEE you watching tv as it is being transmitted, or better still if you dont know who they are dont open the door.

the letters they send are automated and reset every year, so dont worry about those either.

Now, if you are daft, paying for SKY, Virgin etc etc and dont pay the licence, you are not bright, but if you only stream, or catchup you are fine.

funinhounslow

1,927 posts

164 months

Friday 12th August 2022
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Lordbenny said:
Has anyone else decided enough was enough and cancelled their direct debit! I’m certainly thinking about it!
Got rid of it about 10 years ago - legitimately. I don’t watch any live TV or iPlayer.

Will dip in and out of the various streaming platforms if they have something on that interests me. Currently paying £5/month for Apple TV so I can watch For All Mankind and Surface.

Genuinely don’t miss not having a licence. It means when I watch TV it is something I’ve made a conscious decision to watch rather than flipping endlessly through the channels.

The licence fee is hopelessly outdated these days IMO. If they refuse to make BBC subscription only and insist on it being free to air then why not fund it via general taxation? Then everyone is on the hook for it

funinhounslow

1,927 posts

164 months

Friday 12th August 2022
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LukeBrown66 said:
If a goon turns up, dont say anything, dont reveal your name or anything, simply ask them who they represent, and politely say you do not wish to talk to them, they have zero power, unless they can SEE you watching tv as it is being transmitted, or better still if you dont know who they are dont open the door.
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They call them TV licence inspectors but they are just salesmen in effect.

If someone from Sky or Virgin or Netflix knocked on your door demanding to be let in to check your telly or asked for your personal details you wouldn’t oblige them would you? Exactly the same situation with these “inspectors”

parabolica

6,952 posts

206 months

Friday 12th August 2022
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Lordbenny said:
Has anyone else decided enough was enough and cancelled their direct debit! I’m certainly thinking about it!
About 6-7 years ago; never looked back. I don't watch any broadcast TV, never use iPlayer; Dad and I watch the F1 races on NowTV at his place as he still pays for his licence as he's old school and doesn't "do" streaming.

Youtube accounts for 95% of the content I consume - subbed to around 200 channels on there so get a healthy daily feed of stuff that is specific to my interests. There was a lot of bluster about needing a licence to watch any kind of live stream on youtube, but that's not true. You only need a licence if you are watching something live that is simultaneously being shown live on broadcast TV via a television service. So live news updates would fall under this, but someone livestreaming something on their own youtube channel does not, because that isn't appearing on TV channel anywhere.




TwigtheWonderkid

47,818 posts

172 months

Friday 12th August 2022
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Lordbenny said:
I was informed of current affairs from various BBC news outlets….I now realise that the BBC has its own left wing, woke agenda that I really don’t agree with so I get my news elsewhere.


Following the BBC's disgraceful failure to even attempt to hold the govt to account since the last election, I would say BBC News is just a right wing mouthpiece for Boris and co.

Turtle Shed

2,579 posts

48 months

Friday 12th August 2022
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BBC Radio is of course free, and you can watch any of the usual on-demand/streaming services for the main broadcasters without needing a TV licence.

Mrs Shed likes a few BBC programmes, I would cancel it tomorrow.