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JagLover

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44,990 posts

251 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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Didn't see a thread on this.

Henry Cavill to star apparently

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-6399...

Don't know a lot about this universe, so not sure how promising a setting it is.


Nuclearsquash2

13 posts

56 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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I'm a big Warhammer fan, this is huge news.

There is a vast catalogue of novels, lore and background created over nearly 40 years to draw from.

It's incredibly detailed and Henry is a big fan himself so if he brings anything like the attention to detail he applied to The Witcher then we are in for good things.

https://youtu.be/-MeVxKZBOfM very quick premise of 40k

https://youtu.be/05YRMHWtv1Y more detailed summary

TGCOTF-dewey

6,607 posts

71 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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Really excited to see where this goes.

He left witcher becuase it didn't live up to the promise of the original IP.

So hopefully he has the clout to make it suitably dark.

The new darktide game gets the look and feel spot on. Could be a good game too when it's finished.

Matty_

2,194 posts

273 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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The problem is the cost to produce a decent 40K TV show will be astronomical if it's to be done well - and it's very much a niche audience. Cavill has the passion to ensure it's well written, but I think the budget may be a real sticking point.




Jasandjules

71,218 posts

245 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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It fascinates me that he is clearly such a "geek" as such, if he is involved it will only be if it stays true (same as Witcher hence his leaving as I understand it, which will be the end of the show to me!!).. So it ought to be ok...

Kes Arevo

3,555 posts

55 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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Jasandjules said:
It fascinates me that he is clearly such a "geek" as such, if he is involved it will only be if it stays true (same as Witcher hence his leaving as I understand it, which will be the end of the show to me!!).. So it ought to be ok...
Yup, if Henry is involved,not should at least be loyal to the source material.

I know zero about Warhammer, but the figures and art always look superb.

steveatesh

5,185 posts

180 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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Whenever I think of Warhammer it reminds me of this Viz cartoon:

http://www.thefieldsofblood.com/2012/04/viz-does-g...

Sway

32,258 posts

210 months

Tuesday 20th December 2022
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This has two chances - either it'll be absolutely damned incredible, or an utter flop.

My concern is if they lean into the Space Marine lore, especially the Horus Heresy, then 90+% of what's on screen needs to be CGI - and Space Marines (or indeed Primarchs) are a long way from 'normal' humans.

The story is great, but can't really see how it can translate into a live action show/film.

However, something like Gaunt's Ghosts could be incredible and a great 'entry point' into the 30k/40k universe. If that does well, then something like Eisenhorn to follow.

Or indeed, for a bit of dark humour, Ciaphus Cain.

Really, really hope they can get Dan Abnett on board as a writer. All the best books are his anyway!

Cotty

41,449 posts

300 months

Saturday 25th January
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Probably just a mock up


Sway

32,258 posts

210 months

Saturday 25th January
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They've definitely not started filming yet - but the idea of Caville as Eisenhorn would be fking superb!

Would make a great series too, smallish cast, compelling story and relationships, set in a reasonably 'normal' part of the universe.

And the slide from puritan to radical to... Oomph.

RSbandit

2,931 posts

148 months

Saturday 25th January
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The Astartes short on YouTube and the more recent Amazon Prime animated film are both outstanding…the former in particular is exceptional.

Cotty

41,449 posts

300 months

Saturday 25th January
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RSbandit said:
The Astartes short on YouTube and the more recent Amazon Prime animated film are both outstanding…the former in particular is exceptional.
Astartes is pretty cool.

Mr Whippy

31,370 posts

257 months

Saturday 25th January
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I thought the video on Prime was a bit meh.

Space Marines certainly are pretty flashy on the battlefield, but their depiction in that short film was like they're just a few supermen who can pretty much do everything in a small squad, and move at terrific speed, and somehow can figure out everything that's going to happen so they can do cool moves.

Wouldn't it be more realistic to throw a load of scouts at the rabble at the start, and then have a few Terminators with psychic abilities take on the nasty chap at the end.

It just felt like it was showing me the Space Marines being deployed in a way that doesn't stack up with everything I've seen/read/played with them in a geeky 30 years of my life enjoying this stuff.



Would deffo like to see an Eisenhorn (not necessarily with Cavill, not even sure he'd be good as Eisenhorn) made as a multi-part series. If it does well, do more books. If not, it can end without not having a proper end IYSWIM.
Given all the nice animated stuff these days, an Anime/animation style might suit it better as the visual ideas could probably be more realistically achivable for sensible budgets.

ajprice

30,926 posts

212 months

Saturday 25th January
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Is the video on Prime the Warhammer episode of Secret Level?

Sway

32,258 posts

210 months

Saturday 25th January
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Fitted very well with the fluff for me - they are superhuman who absolutely rinse through hundreds/thousands of regular human militia solo, scouts are pretty rare and terminators even rarer. Librarians are damned rare, and terminator librarians the rarest of the rare.

It's entirely typical for a single tactical armour squad to be sent on that sort of mission. In fact, the odd bit is who they sent on a suicide mission - Bladeguard veterans (the best of the best, elevated into 1st company and pretty much the elite of that elite group other than the terminator squads) and a hero with the Laurels of Victory would not be the individuals typically selected!

JagLover

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44,990 posts

251 months

Sunday 26th January
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Apparently there was a dispute behind the scenes over creative control and Cavill didn't want there to be another Witcher situation.

It seems to have been resolved, and Cavill remains an Executive Producer, so fingers crossed for a faithful adaption.

Mr Whippy

31,370 posts

257 months

Sunday 26th January
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Sway said:
Fitted very well with the fluff for me - they are superhuman who absolutely rinse through hundreds/thousands of regular human militia solo, scouts are pretty rare and terminators even rarer. Librarians are damned rare, and terminator librarians the rarest of the rare.

It's entirely typical for a single tactical armour squad to be sent on that sort of mission. In fact, the odd bit is who they sent on a suicide mission - Bladeguard veterans (the best of the best, elevated into 1st company and pretty much the elite of that elite group other than the terminator squads) and a hero with the Laurels of Victory would not be the individuals typically selected!
Maybe it needed a bit better context then.

They just seemed to come across as completely invincible which if they were vs the foes at hand then arguably they’d been mis-deployed. Wasted on such trifling targets.

Then end bit then goes the other way and they’re out/matched, and wasted on such tough targets.

Sway

32,258 posts

210 months

Sunday 26th January
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Mr Whippy said:
Sway said:
Fitted very well with the fluff for me - they are superhuman who absolutely rinse through hundreds/thousands of regular human militia solo, scouts are pretty rare and terminators even rarer. Librarians are damned rare, and terminator librarians the rarest of the rare.

It's entirely typical for a single tactical armour squad to be sent on that sort of mission. In fact, the odd bit is who they sent on a suicide mission - Bladeguard veterans (the best of the best, elevated into 1st company and pretty much the elite of that elite group other than the terminator squads) and a hero with the Laurels of Victory would not be the individuals typically selected!
Maybe it needed a bit better context then.

They just seemed to come across as completely invincible which if they were vs the foes at hand then arguably they’d been mis-deployed. Wasted on such trifling targets.

Then end bit then goes the other way and they’re out/matched, and wasted on such tough targets.
Yeah, it's tough getting the story telling across in such short episodes.

They were deployed and prepped for the tzeentch sorcerer, with the sanctioned psyker producing the shield for them to bring down the Lord of Change relic. It would all have been fine if it wasn't for the physical attack getting through which then left the astartes open to the sorcerer's psychic attacks.

Only ways they could have been better prepared would have been a terminator librarian (who would have been armoured against the physical attacks, but possibly wouldn't have been strong enough psychically against a higher tier tzeentch sorcerer) - or a blank, except they really are the rarest of rare things on a rare day, as a blank wouldn't have needed to be 'freed' from the sarcophagus, just their presence would have been enough to nullify anything psychic.

Mr Whippy

31,370 posts

257 months

Sunday 26th January
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A job for Eisenhorn and his retinue.

Sway

32,258 posts

210 months

Sunday 26th January
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Mr Whippy said:
A job for Eisenhorn and his retinue.
Depends which 'era' Eisenhorn!

Full fat Ravenor with his retinue would have a better chance - but both would have had a much tougher time against the horde. Tbh, any self respecting inquisitor would have just commandeered a similar astartes force to do it for them.

Absolute best option for the Imperium would be a single Custodes with a Sister of Silence.