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It's essential viewing. I've an odd reaction to it, brought back some horrible memories that I seem to have boxed away in a corner of my brain. But also somehow not believable even though it is very realistic! If this was made as a drama without covid having existed I doubt anyone would believe it.
Read about this, hope that Britbox pick it up for the US. Sounds harrowing but based on truth.
Just like the Jodie Comer / Stephen Graham film "Help" which was harrowing but absolutely brilliant I think drama of this sort is essential viewing. We must not forget the utter incompetence of governments when dealing with COVID.
Just like the Jodie Comer / Stephen Graham film "Help" which was harrowing but absolutely brilliant I think drama of this sort is essential viewing. We must not forget the utter incompetence of governments when dealing with COVID.
Was looking for a thread on this last night when I was watching it but CBA to start a new one.
I'm assuming it was dramatised and I'm pretty sure something popped up with words to that effect.
I've got relatives who worked on ITU and they seem to think it wasn't quite as bad as they were making it out to be, although clearly harrowing.
What do I know!?
I'm assuming it was dramatised and I'm pretty sure something popped up with words to that effect.
I've got relatives who worked on ITU and they seem to think it wasn't quite as bad as they were making it out to be, although clearly harrowing.
What do I know!?
Based on a book by a consultant doctor who was in the thick of it in a hospital, so pretty accurate I'd say.
Shows what a s
t show it was and how so many died needlessly due to utterly hopeless management by people at the 'very' top.
It's a tricky watch to be sure. (Just watch ep 3 to get the meat of the issue).
BTW I lost a close family member due to Government policy, so please don't tell me I'm grandstanding.
FYI turns out one of the ... well just read:
https://twitter.com/MichaelRosenYes/status/1759857...
Shows what a s
t show it was and how so many died needlessly due to utterly hopeless management by people at the 'very' top.It's a tricky watch to be sure. (Just watch ep 3 to get the meat of the issue).
BTW I lost a close family member due to Government policy, so please don't tell me I'm grandstanding.
FYI turns out one of the ... well just read:
https://twitter.com/MichaelRosenYes/status/1759857...
Edited by GetCarter on Tuesday 20th February 17:04
Mrs LL was in ITU in a very senior nursing position during the outbreak...she rarely if ever speaks in detail about her experiences and made very little comment about the programme last night either. As with most of these types of dramas, I got the impression that some was accurate and some a bit embelished but this is about as much as I could get out of her after she watched it last night.
LimmerickLad said:
Mrs LL was in ITU in a very senior nursing position during the outbreak...she rarely if ever speaks in detail about her experiences and made very little comment about the programme last night either. As with most of these types of dramas, I got the impression that some was accurate and some a bit embelished but this is about as much as I could get out of her after she watched it last night.
Good friend of mine is an A and E doctor in a large city. Two tours of Afghan leading a MERT team, frontline combat.
He said he preferred Afghan. Covid was carnage and that people had no idea and the political leadership, was so poor it was destructive.
Castrol for a knave said:
LimmerickLad said:
Mrs LL was in ITU in a very senior nursing position during the outbreak...she rarely if ever speaks in detail about her experiences and made very little comment about the programme last night either. As with most of these types of dramas, I got the impression that some was accurate and some a bit embelished but this is about as much as I could get out of her after she watched it last night.
Good friend of mine is an A and E doctor in a large city. Two tours of Afghan leading a MERT team, frontline combat.
He said he preferred Afghan. Covid was carnage and that people had no idea and the political leadership, was so poor it was destructive.
LimmerickLad said:
Just asked her if she wants to watch the 2nd part tonight........."something I have put in a box and don't want to re-open..I have moved on from it and don't want to go back again"..she was in one of the most affected London hospitals and never came home for 6 weeks.
Please thank her for her service. Those front line workers are genuine heroes.
LimmerickLad said:
Just asked her if she wants to watch the 2nd part tonight........."something I have put in a box and don't want to re-open..I have moved on from it and don't want to go back again"..she was in one of the most affected London hospitals and never came home for 6 weeks.
Another thank you here. I watched that last night and it really rammed home what they went through. LimmerickLad said:
Just asked her if she wants to watch the 2nd part tonight........."something I have put in a box and don't want to re-open..I have moved on from it and don't want to go back again"..she was in one of the most affected London hospitals and never came home for 6 weeks.
Can completely understand why she's said that. I was working on the wards during covid and didn't have the same experience as those in itu and ED but I found the first 2 episodes hard to watch. It brought back the memories of colleagues in ITU and the shear panic at the start around PPE and then the downgrading of it. It was a hard time in my career and one I never want to repeat. I know myself and colleagues have been in tears watching it, I really felt for the patients on our wards at the time, no visitors, watching people get covid and never come back, the lack of staff and exhaustion both physically and mentally reflected in the staff. Sobering reminder of how truly dreadful things could be at times. Wife and I are both senior medics, she was virtually living in ICU and rarely saw me for several weeks during the spring 2020 wave as I was working behind the scenes on community responses and prevention. Some of her colleagues became critically ill patients themselves; four hospital staff died, mostly in their thirties or forties. Some hospitals couldn't send enough oxygen through the pipes to meet all the oxygen demands of so many really sick patients all at once, and we had hospitals transferring patients as far as Newcastle as they were running out of ICU beds in London. Hospitals doubled or more their usual number of intensive care beds yet were full to capacity with patients needing that level of care.
It was horrible for many businesses and their employees too and destabilising for children (my two children were in primary school and spent months out of school). Spectacularly managing the biggest threat on the Government's list of potential national disasters through the egregious failings of people in some of the highest positions of authority was never going to end well and has left an expensive legacy that society is still dealing with.
And yet still occasionally someone will inform me that COVID was a hoax for which doctors were paid a shedload of money to claim otherwise. Well, if so, someone must have screwed up as I never got the memo nor the bung.
It was horrible for many businesses and their employees too and destabilising for children (my two children were in primary school and spent months out of school). Spectacularly managing the biggest threat on the Government's list of potential national disasters through the egregious failings of people in some of the highest positions of authority was never going to end well and has left an expensive legacy that society is still dealing with.
And yet still occasionally someone will inform me that COVID was a hoax for which doctors were paid a shedload of money to claim otherwise. Well, if so, someone must have screwed up as I never got the memo nor the bung.
K77 CTR said:
LimmerickLad said:
Just asked her if she wants to watch the 2nd part tonight........."something I have put in a box and don't want to re-open..I have moved on from it and don't want to go back again"..she was in one of the most affected London hospitals and never came home for 6 weeks.
Can completely understand why she's said that. I was working on the wards during covid and didn't have the same experience as those in itu and ED but I found the first 2 episodes hard to watch. It brought back the memories of colleagues in ITU and the shear panic at the start around PPE and then the downgrading of it. It was a hard time in my career and one I never want to repeat. I know myself and colleagues have been in tears watching it, I really felt for the patients on our wards at the time, no visitors, watching people get covid and never come back, the lack of staff and exhaustion both physically and mentally reflected in the staff. This drama is very accurate.
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