The Jury S2 - Channel 4
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Slow.Patrol

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3,585 posts

34 months

Tuesday 26th August
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Anyone else watching?

I really enjoyed the first series.

bad company

21,201 posts

286 months

Tuesday 26th August
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Never watched before but giving it a try.

andrewcliffe

1,423 posts

244 months

Tuesday 26th August
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S1 was based on my wife's cousin Angela.

Slow.Patrol

Original Poster:

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34 months

Tuesday 26th August
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I'm finding it a bit annoying as I am sure when I did jury service we were discouraged from discussing the case with other jurors until after all the evidence had been heard.

But I guess the program makers want to demonstrate how people's opinions change.

Slow.Patrol

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Tuesday 26th August
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andrewcliffe said:
S1 was based on my wife's cousin Angela.
Wow. That must have been really hard for you. Did you know in advance that C4 were making the program?

andrewcliffe

1,423 posts

244 months

Tuesday 26th August
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Angela's father and my wife's father were siblings but didn't really get on, so that side of the family and my side rarely had much to do with each other apart from the most sombre family functions, usually funerals. I don't think we were asked, nor do I think we should have been, it was only when it was televised and although names, location and the exact manner of the incident were changed, it was sufficiently close to home to recognise which case it was.

tele_lover

1,153 posts

35 months

Wednesday 27th August
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Was S1 the case with a toolshed outside or something? And it was about the pre-meditation whether he had the hammer or went and fetched it?

Randy Winkman

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209 months

Wednesday 27th August
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tele_lover said:
Was S1 the case with a toolshed outside or something? And it was about the pre-meditation whether he had the hammer or went and fetched it?
I watched it and that sounds about right. But others might remember better. Anyway, I enjoyed series 1 but wondered if it was a bit lucky with regards the verdicts of the 2 juries. "Lucky" because it made a point so well. I havent watched last night's yet but wonder how this one will pan out. Surely not the same?

Boxster5

990 posts

128 months

Thursday 28th August
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Some really annoying jurors on this series (Stacey in particular, Marissa and the retired chef).
The jurors are all wearing the exact same clothes and yet we’re meant to believe it’s filmed over a number of days.

Mr Magooagain

12,304 posts

190 months

Thursday 28th August
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Yes it’s not very convincing. Jurors making facial expressions while in the court etc.

Boxster5

990 posts

128 months

Friday 29th August
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Some really annoying jurors on this series (Stacey in particular, Marissa and the retired chef).
The jurors are all wearing the exact same clothes and yet we’re meant to believe it’s filmed over a number of days.

Megaflow

10,799 posts

245 months

Friday 29th August
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Boxster5 said:
Some really annoying jurors on this series (Stacey in particular, Marissa and the retired chef).
The jurors are all wearing the exact same clothes and yet we’re meant to believe it’s filmed over a number of days.
That is exactly what bugged me in the first series as well, we are supposed to believe this took days to go through the case and film it, yet it was clearly knocked out in a day.

That or they managed to find 24 people (12 for the first series and 12 for this series) that all think it is acceptable to wear the same clothes for days on end while on TV. I think I can work out what is most likely.

PeterTTT

95 posts

146 months

Friday 29th August
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Would be pretty much impossible to film it in 1 day.
Regarding the clothing. The wardrobe and make up department will dress people daily in the same style clothing but a fresh set (they have more than i set of the same clothes!).
It makes it much easier for continuity and for editing into episodes. For example, say on day 2 they do cutaway from courtroom individual interviews before it starts they might prefer to tie those into the first episode. Also gives them contingency if a "juror" (or other actor) spills a coffee on themselves during the day.

Megaflow

10,799 posts

245 months

Friday 29th August
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PeterTTT said:
Would be pretty much impossible to film it in 1 day.
Regarding the clothing. The wardrobe and make up department will dress people daily in the same style clothing but a fresh set (they have more than i set of the same clothes!).
It makes it much easier for continuity and for editing into episodes. For example, say on day 2 they do cutaway from courtroom individual interviews before it starts they might prefer to tie those into the first episode. Also gives them contingency if a "juror" (or other actor) spills a coffee on themselves during the day.
So it's not bullscensoredt in the sense of it was filmed in a day, but bullscensoredt in that they have chopped it around and edited it to suit the narative they want to portray then?

GetCarter

30,558 posts

299 months

Friday 29th August
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Ch 4 say it took 10 days to film, which sounds about right.

I assume the reason they told the jury to wear the same clothes every day was so that when it came to the edit they could take reaction shots from any day.

Personally I think it was a bad call, for the very reason that it sparks conversations as above!

j4r4lly

774 posts

155 months

Friday 29th August
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It’s interesting for sure and we only see a chopped down version of the proceedings.

People will inevitably form an opinion pretty quickly and jump to conclusions depending on the last piece of evidence they have heard.

I can’t say too much else without giving things away

Slow.Patrol

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34 months

Friday 29th August
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Interesting.

I have no idea how some can think acquittal when she left him to bleed out for 45 minutes.

Slow.Patrol

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Friday 29th August
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kestral

2,086 posts

227 months

Friday 29th August
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It's tosh. Not correct in many ways both legaly and procedurally.

Barristers leading when they would not be allowed to, Barristers summing up with points that are only summed up by the judge, expert witnesses giving opinions on the law!.

The only entertaining part is the seeing the loonies that could end up on any jury. The pink haird Scoucer FMS!

GetCarter

30,558 posts

299 months

Saturday 30th August
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I'm sure the court stuff was inaccurate procedurally, but to be fair, it wasn't about the court, it was about how the jury were completely at sea in how to come to a verdict. Preconceived prejudices, tribal loyalty etc etc.

I would have thought providing a couple of impartial but learned legal boffins to sit in with the jury (without comment), but with the ability to provide specifics / explanations when requested would help the process, and may even stop some of the pointless bickering!

Out of interest, I just started watching the Australian version. So far the jury members are much less likely to jump to speculative conclusions (the UK lot were terrible, I thought).

Also, with regard to clothing, they too are wearing the same each day, so I'm sure it's for editing and continuity purposes. I'll take a punt that wardrobe would have provided the clothes and had several sets of each.