Taylor Swift on Graham Norton
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MC Bodge

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26,391 posts

195 months

Friday 3rd October
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Is Taylor Swift the most dull megastar ever?

coppice

9,439 posts

164 months

Saturday 4th October
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You know, I've tried . Friends old and young love her , her albums are perfectly produced , her songs a bit generic , but far better than many but ..I always think she may as well be an AI creation. Looks like a 14 year old's idea of a hot girl and sounds an amalgam of her influences.

Bear-n

1,841 posts

102 months

Saturday 4th October
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Unfortunate thread title..

Little Pete

1,804 posts

114 months

Saturday 4th October
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Bear-n said:
Unfortunate thread title..
laugh

croyde

25,243 posts

250 months

Saturday 4th October
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There is something very Meh! about her.

I used to point a camera at her when filming concerts and she was just a person to keep in frame.

Katy Perry however, cloud9

Squadrone Rosso

3,475 posts

167 months

Saturday 4th October
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Don’t get the comment personally.

Thought she came across really well.

We have a shared playlist with our niece & nephew and up until a few years ago I had no idea who she was.

Then I head a few of her songs & asked said niece who she was and it went from there.

We took our then 15 y/o niece to Wembley last year and aside from the sonic weapon that nearly made me puke / st my pants (screaming young girls), the show was fantastic.

I think she’ll be on the right side of history politically speaking too.

For reference, I’m 55.

MC Bodge

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26,391 posts

195 months

Saturday 4th October
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croyde said:
There is something very Meh! about her
Exactly. The music is bland and, despite my children frequently listening to her music in the past, I couldn't now hum a single song of hers.

I heard some of her new album on R4 yesterday. It sounded fairly cringeworthy, although instantly forgettable.

On TV with Graham Norton, She had no apparent star quality, charisma or quirkiness. Bland anecdotes about her fiance was about it.

She is 35, but has the hairstyle of a young teenager. She is possibly quite attractive if you saw her in the supermarket, but not especially so.



.....She is hugely popular.


Hub

6,908 posts

218 months

Saturday 4th October
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She's had a couple of good albums - 1989 in particular is a really great pop album (which has featured heavily on the family playlist!), and the first of the more mellow recent albums, Folklore is pretty good.

However, in recent years her output has got very stale. The last album was over 2 hours of samey dullness put out to milk the fanbase and the new album doesn't recapture the spark either. I don't understand how she keeps getting bigger when critically she really should be considered past her best at this point. Personality wise yes she is a bit bland but no worse than many... Think the likes of Ed Sheeran etc

billbring

283 posts

203 months

Saturday 4th October
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I've got a feeling that she is not aiming to appeal to middle-aged male car enthusiasts biggrin

I agree, she is bland, but she is foremost a businessperson and an incredibly successful one. Her skill is understanding her audience (teenage girls) and her product is her self-image, which she retains extremely tight control of. When she appears on the likes of Graham Norton, it's a calculated marketing exercise, probably more so than any other celebrity in history.

trashbat

6,215 posts

173 months

Saturday 4th October
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She's not that bland. You don't have to like it, but that's different from bland. The likes of 'Folklore' are a fair distance from the likes of '1989', so there's more diversity to her work than a lot of artists, and whilst you could do lots of things and all of them be boring, it'd make it very difficult to produce genuinely good & critically acclaimed output across different genres.

I don't mind pop, but I'm very much not a teenage girl, so I've never had any motivation to like her or align to thinking she's great, but I think her work is very good, often clever storytelling.

DSLiverpool

15,919 posts

222 months

Saturday 4th October
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The Elon Musk of pop, Tesla music for the masses.

DeejRC

8,435 posts

102 months

Saturday 4th October
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DSLiverpool said:
The Elon Musk of pop, Tesla music for the masses.
I don't get the above. What is it supposed to mean?

At the end of the day its just pop music. Its not important in or to life, so what does music for the masses mean? A song plays on the radio and then it ends and life carries on into the next song or whatever it is you are doing.

lizardbrain

3,451 posts

57 months

Saturday 4th October
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It might be at least partly a gender thing. Taylor swift lyrics are for women mostly I think

MC Bodge

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26,391 posts

195 months

Saturday 4th October
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lizardbrain said:
It might be at least partly a gender thing. Taylor swift lyrics are for women mostly I think
Like that "Self Esteem" woman, but for teenagers?

nicanary

10,857 posts

166 months

Saturday 4th October
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She's changed her image for this latest album. No longer cowboy hats but more daring outfits for the showgirl look. It'll be interesting to see how her fans dress for concerts - there could be some gross moments.

markiii

4,140 posts

214 months

Saturday 4th October
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her last good album was red, all a bit st thereafter

Lucas Ayde

4,046 posts

188 months

Saturday 4th October
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coppice said:
You know, I've tried . Friends old and young love her , her albums are perfectly produced , her songs a bit generic , but far better than many but ..I always think she may as well be an AI creation. Looks like a 14 year old's idea of a hot girl and sounds an amalgam of her influences.
She always looked like some sort of artificial being to me, just something off about her. I wouldn't say her music is bad - but it just doesn't appeal to me in the least whereas normally I'll at least find one song from an artist that might get into my head.

Still, she's been massively popular for many years with huge live shows that are nearly impossible to get sensibly-priced tickets for .. so lots of people think she's got talent, clearly.

twing

5,577 posts

151 months

Saturday 4th October
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I'll buck the trend and say I think she's great. Inoffensive, catchy pop and kept herself out of trouble.

BikeBikeBIke

12,676 posts

135 months

Saturday 4th October
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twing said:
I'll buck the trend and say I think she's great. Inoffensive, catchy pop and kept herself out of trouble.
+1 and a lot of her early stuff was brilliant.

...and she writes her own songs like Amy Whinehouse.

Bear-n

1,841 posts

102 months

Saturday 4th October
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She's just a present-day Madonna. Good songs, hardly bad looking but we fancy our missus' more, media-hyped because of reasons we don't fully understand.