The Hospital - Channel 4 now

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theboyfold

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Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Is anybody else watching this, it's very sobering stuff...

xllifts

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Tuesday 7th April 2009
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True but how the feck do you make a mistake like that! 10 times the amount of ketamine!

theboyfold

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Tuesday 7th April 2009
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xllifts said:
True but how the feck do you make a mistake like that! 10 times the amount of ketamine!
True, but I have no idea how you deal with pressures like that on a day by day basis. You can see how easy it is to make a mistake.

My good lady is an OT and the stuff she tells me is nothing like that they have to deal with in A&E but still so far removed from what my normal day to day life is

anonymous-user

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Tuesday 7th April 2009
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xllifts said:
True but how the feck do you make a mistake like that! 10 times the amount of ketamine!
We all make mistakes, unfortunately as a nurse those mistakes can have far more serious consequences.

Amazing how calm they all stayed, I woukd've been fking panicking if I was in charge! eek

xllifts

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Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Its not the people who I'm blaming, they do a great job, I couldn't do it, but there should be systems in place that prevent that sort of accident from happening. From what I can work out the wrong strength was in the wrong place.

theboyfold

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Tuesday 7th April 2009
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xllifts said:
Its not the people who I'm blaming, they do a great job, I couldn't do it, but there should be systems in place that prevent that sort of accident from happening. From what I can work out the wrong strength was in the wrong place.
Very true. It's just such a different environment, what kind of systems do you put into place in a situation like that.

The last story about the kid who didn't make it was horrible.

FM

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221 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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superb programme...frightening scenarios. Imagine dealing with all that day in day out..

Alcohol adds to the problems in most cases ...

staceyb

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Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Shocking, truly shocking.

xllifts

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Tuesday 7th April 2009
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theboyfold said:
xllifts said:
Its not the people who I'm blaming, they do a great job, I couldn't do it, but there should be systems in place that prevent that sort of accident from happening. From what I can work out the wrong strength was in the wrong place.
Very true. It's just such a different environment, what kind of systems do you put into place in a situation like that.

The last story about the kid who didn't make it was horrible.
A system of checking strengths so as when in a high pressure situation they shouldn't be worried about it. Something where only the right chemical/strength will fit in holder? I not professing to know the answer but the people doing the job shouldn't be put undermore pressure by mistakes, whomevers fault, when it could be prevented.

I agree the story of the young lad was horrible. My missus was in an ICU with 6 beds, she was the only one who made it. It was very sobering.

I certainly couldn't be that patient with the drunk people, I'd be 'tough, you brought it on yourself!'

Marf

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242 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Very sobering programme, I don't know how the people who work in front line medicine do what they do day in day out and not go crazy.

diesel head

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Tuesday 7th April 2009
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I have only started watching half way through, but can recognise the attitude of the A and E doctor. My only experience (touch wood) of A and E as a patient was as a student I had plursy (sp) and a chest infection, I had seen an emergency doctor earlier in the day and had been given antibiotics and pain killers. Went home to my empty student house (my housemates were away) and was in quite a bit of pain and struggling to breathe, and was also very very frightened. I called NHS direct and they called an ambulance, I got to A and E and had a horrible experience, the doctors were so dismissive, I overheard them laughing at me for coming in just with a chest infection (I had pluresy too and was literally counting the hours between pain killers), and they were so very dismissive, and at the time I had never been so ill and was alone and scared.

I just felt the dissmissive attitude was uncalled for, as a normally well person, I found being ill to the point where breathing was very very painful scary. I realise that I wasn't the most ill person there by any stretch of the imagination, but the whole A and E experience was horrible, and really it needn't have been. I just expected the A and E staff to be a little more friendly, I didn't want more of their time, just a good attitude. They could also have explained a little better that really I should have gone to the out of hours doctor instead.

I realise now that I handled the situation wrong, I should have called the out of hours doctor again, and recognised that my main problem was being alone and frightened. Hindsight is a wonderful thing!

theboyfold

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Tuesday 7th April 2009
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xllifts said:
theboyfold said:
xllifts said:
Its not the people who I'm blaming, they do a great job, I couldn't do it, but there should be systems in place that prevent that sort of accident from happening. From what I can work out the wrong strength was in the wrong place.
Very true. It's just such a different environment, what kind of systems do you put into place in a situation like that.

The last story about the kid who didn't make it was horrible.
A system of checking strengths so as when in a high pressure situation they shouldn't be worried about it. Something where only the right chemical/strength will fit in holder? I not professing to know the answer but the people doing the job shouldn't be put undermore pressure by mistakes, whomevers fault, when it could be prevented.

I agree the story of the young lad was horrible. My missus was in an ICU with 6 beds, she was the only one who made it. It was very sobering.

I certainly couldn't be that patient with the drunk people, I'd be 'tough, you brought it on yourself!'
I like the attitude of the blonde nurse, it's a shame that the powers that be don't seem to listen to those on the 'front line' as it were. I like that tough love stance that she takes with them, but I could imagine she'd be a lot tougher given half a chance.

Re the ITU, I know what you mean. Seeing that nurse talking to the parents bought back everything from when my mum was in ITU. It's a strange strange place, and it's very easy to loose the perspective of where they are. Unfortunatly after a month in there my mum didn't make it out, but I came out of the experience with so much respect for the doctors and nurses who were involved in her 18 months of going in and out of hospital. So seeing the way people treat themselves, the NHS and it's staff really gets to me.

ETA: I wonder if the irony that it was put on before Shameless was lost on Channel 4?

Edited by theboyfold on Tuesday 7th April 22:10