Calls for BBC iPLAYER and ITV cathcup to be chargable....

[thatone1967]

They are having a laugh surely...

you already pay for your TV licence / have to sit through adverts.. and they come up with this...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8270663.stm

Edited by thatone1967 on Wednesday 23 September 15:05

[Nolar Dog]

What about people like me though that never watch TV and use iPlayer (et al) to watch what I want for free.

Should I pay? I wouldn't mind if I had to.

[thatone1967]

Nolar Dog said:

What about people like me though that never watch TV and use iPlayer (et al) to watch what I want for free.

Should I pay? I wouldn't mind if I had to.

true...but I am guessing you are in the minority.. I personally already pay for my tv licence...

[Nolar Dog]

I would think there are plenty of people who don't have TV and only catch programmes on "catch up" services who would be willing to do so on an iTunes style "pay as you download/watch" basis.

If they started to charge then the content might also improve.

[KaraK]

i think it would make sense to have it "pay as you go" for those without a license - only fair after all

[thatone1967]

KaraK said:

i think it would make sense to have it "pay as you go" for those without a license - only fair after all

This I agree with, what I dont agree with is people having to pay for iPlayer content AND a TV licence... why should you have to pay twice?

[touching cloth]

thatone1967 said:

KaraK said:

i think it would make sense to have it "pay as you go" for those without a license - only fair after all

This I agree with, what I dont agree with is people having to pay for iPlayer content AND a TV licence... why should you have to pay twice?

Why not though really? Your TV licence effectively pays for the stuff broadcast over the air, it's not a given right that you can access that content via other methods. When BBC release a series on DVD you wouldn't quibble that you are paying twice buy having to pay for it surely. Whilst at the moment it's nice that the iplayer etc content comes free why should they not be able to charge, there are a whole bunch of costs that iplayer will incur like dev costs of the platform/bandwidth/staff. If you don't want to watch something live but also don't want to pay iplayer fees then you are still free to record anything when it is free to air anyway. You have a choice not to use Iplayer if you don't want to, same as you have a choice about buying a series on DVD.

Having said all that, I do hope they stay free as it's dead handy and I know I'd never pay for it

[KaraK]

touching cloth said:

thatone1967 said:

KaraK said:

i think it would make sense to have it "pay as you go" for those without a license - only fair after all

This I agree with, what I dont agree with is people having to pay for iPlayer content AND a TV licence... why should you have to pay twice?

Why not though really? Your TV licence effectively pays for the stuff broadcast over the air, it's not a given right that you can access that content via other methods. When BBC release a series on DVD you wouldn't quibble that you are paying twice buy having to pay for it surely. Whilst at the moment it's nice that the iplayer etc content comes free why should they not be able to charge, there are a whole bunch of costs that iplayer will incur like dev costs of the platform/bandwidth/staff. If you don't want to watch something live but also don't want to pay iplayer fees then you are still free to record anything when it is free to air anyway. You have a choice not to use Iplayer if you don't want to, same as you have a choice about buying a series on DVD.

Having said all that, I do hope they stay free as it's dead handy and I know I'd never pay for it

I think one of the bigger problems is the idea of taking something that was free and making it chargable - I understand that they have costs associated with the service but that's nothing new. I they need to subsidise the pot to keep it running then there are less odious ways of doing it, do it by offering "premium" services on top - such as paying to have a download not expire, paying for HD content or even getting episodes of stuff in advance. I think those would be things that alot of people would happily pay for (if the price was right) and it could provide enough funds that the basic service could remain free.

[Eric Mc]

Once Internet users get used to obtaining a service for free, they are resentful when that service becomes "pay to view" and will be reluctant to dip into their pockets. A couple of weeks ago this was being debated quite a lot on BBC Radio News, mainly because the Murdoch Newspapers are planning to make their online content "pay-per-view".

I don't see it happening in the UK. However, I can see the BBC offering a pay to view iPlayer service to overseas users of the Internet because, at the moment, foreign users have limited access to BBC internet services and some of those users might be willing to pay to watch BBC TV

[Man-At-Arms]

and the Government also have realised they are missing out on a nice money earner
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8270772.stm

they want to charge you 50p a month extra for the priviledge of having a ADSL telephone line (then they'll put VAT onto that!)

this will apparently pay for the new telephone infrastructure, which they then give to BT.
and then BT then charge us for using it

[BrabusMog]

Man-At-Arms said:

and the Government also have realised they are missing out on a nice money earner
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8270772.stm

they want to charge you 50p a month extra for the priviledge of having a ADSL telephone line (then they'll put VAT onto that!)

this will apparently pay for the new telephone infrastructure, which they then give to BT.
and then BT then charge us for using it

Pfffft, this is so Broon can tell us we have a "revolutionary" broadband network with everyone on 2mbps. If you have ever been to Japan or Korea you will realise just how big an insult this is.

I thought by watching iPlayer you were confirming you already had a TV licence?

[Oakey]

touching cloth said:

thatone1967 said:

KaraK said:

i think it would make sense to have it "pay as you go" for those without a license - only fair after all

This I agree with, what I dont agree with is people having to pay for iPlayer content AND a TV licence... why should you have to pay twice?

Why not though really? Your TV licence effectively pays for the stuff broadcast over the air, it's not a given right that you can access that content via other methods. When BBC release a series on DVD you wouldn't quibble that you are paying twice buy having to pay for it surely. Whilst at the moment it's nice that the iplayer etc content comes free why should they not be able to charge, there are a whole bunch of costs that iplayer will incur like dev costs of the platform/bandwidth/staff. If you don't want to watch something live but also don't want to pay iplayer fees then you are still free to record anything when it is free to air anyway. You have a choice not to use Iplayer if you don't want to, same as you have a choice about buying a series on DVD.

Having said all that, I do hope they stay free as it's dead handy and I know I'd never pay for it

I thought iplayer content was distributed via peer 2 peer?

[bonsai]

Oakey said:

touching cloth said:

thatone1967 said:

KaraK said:

i think it would make sense to have it "pay as you go" for those without a license - only fair after all

This I agree with, what I dont agree with is people having to pay for iPlayer content AND a TV licence... why should you have to pay twice?

Why not though really? Your TV licence effectively pays for the stuff broadcast over the air, it's not a given right that you can access that content via other methods. When BBC release a series on DVD you wouldn't quibble that you are paying twice buy having to pay for it surely. Whilst at the moment it's nice that the iplayer etc content comes free why should they not be able to charge, there are a whole bunch of costs that iplayer will incur like dev costs of the platform/bandwidth/staff. If you don't want to watch something live but also don't want to pay iplayer fees then you are still free to record anything when it is free to air anyway. You have a choice not to use Iplayer if you don't want to, same as you have a choice about buying a series on DVD.

Having said all that, I do hope they stay free as it's dead handy and I know I'd never pay for it

I thought iplayer content was distributed via peer 2 peer?

Up until the end of last year that was the case.