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SystemParanoia

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14,343 posts

215 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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Somethings been bothering me.

Destiny travels FTL in normal space... yet according to the theory of relativity time dilation should be absolutely obscene at these speeds.

yet.. time seems to be un-affected

anyone know what excuse the produces have come up with for that ?

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

247 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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Erm, because it's a sci-fi entertainment show?

So, people continually jumping through wormholes in space - you're okay with.

But the inricasies of FTL bother you.

Interesting.

SystemParanoia

Original Poster:

14,343 posts

215 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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yup! biggrin

reminds me of the nights dawn trilogy series of books hehe

but wormholes and hyperspace etc imo are firmly in scifi territory. they can write their rules for how they may operate in their show/timeline

but i dont know of many/any shows that uses real space ftl completely disregarding the theory of relativity.

hence me asking if they have made up some puedo-science excuse for it being able to do what it does.

i.e star trek - sub-space bubbles.. the ship doesnt move, but it pulls the destination close to it.. warping space

B5, Stargate, BSG - Hyperspace, implemented in different ways, but essentially transport to another layer of space time, and exit when you've arrived

i just want an excuse\work-around really, lol

im

34,302 posts

234 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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SystemParanoia said:
Somethings been bothering me.

Destiny travels FTL in normal space... yet according to the theory of relativity time dilation should be absolutely obscene at these speeds.

yet.. time seems to be un-affected

anyone know what excuse the produces have come up with for that ?
Funnily enough, although thats pertinent what bothers me more is - WTF is that 'smoke' that the ship seems to be either flying through or is giving-off from the front of the craft itself???

Vipers

33,314 posts

245 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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And if they are running out of power, why are all the outside lights on, don't tell me they are navigation lights.

smile


P.S. Is that girl who took a shower last night the same one who played the termiantor in the mini TV series one or two years ago?

rednotdead

1,238 posts

243 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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Vipers said:
P.S. Is that girl who took a shower last night the same one who played the termiantor in the mini TV series one or two years ago?
Fraid not - it was Summer Glau in the Terminator series yum


SystemParanoia

Original Poster:

14,343 posts

215 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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im said:
SystemParanoia said:
Somethings been bothering me.

Destiny travels FTL in normal space... yet according to the theory of relativity time dilation should be absolutely obscene at these speeds.

yet.. time seems to be un-affected

anyone know what excuse the produces have come up with for that ?
Funnily enough, although thats pertinent what bothers me more is - WTF is that 'smoke' that the ship seems to be either flying through or is giving-off from the front of the craft itself???
i just assumed that the ship uses lage scale magnetism to protect itself from debris? so its carries its own aurora borealis around with it?


shoggoth1

815 posts

282 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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SystemParanoia said:
Somethings been bothering me.

Destiny travels FTL in normal space... yet according to the theory of relativity time dilation should be absolutely obscene at these speeds.

yet.. time seems to be un-affected

anyone know what excuse the produces have come up with for that ?
For a start, doesn't the theory of relativity discount FTL travel anyway - nothing can travel faster?

Taking a different tack, on board destiny they are all in the same reference frame so experience time dilation equally. I suppose they are in contact with Earth though and there's no apparent difference. Must be magic.


Vipers

33,314 posts

245 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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rednotdead said:
Fraid not - it was Summer Glau in the Terminator series yum
+1

smile

im

34,302 posts

234 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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shoggoth1 said:
For a start, doesn't the theory of relativity discount FTL travel anyway - nothing can travel faster?
Correct - all plausible means of humans getting anywhere that would ordinarily require FTL travel use Wormholes/Sub Space/Folding of Space etc as their work-around.

Vipers

33,314 posts

245 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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im said:
shoggoth1 said:
For a start, doesn't the theory of relativity discount FTL travel anyway - nothing can travel faster?
Correct - all plausible means of humans getting anywhere that would ordinarily require FTL travel use Wormholes/Sub Space/Folding of Space etc as their work-around.
A theory is only a theory until proved! but its probably right anyway.

smile

Bollah

562 posts

204 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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I'm liking this program for Julia Anderson, prancing around in a small top and knickers, with a massive rack, om nom nom lick

huffysteve

78 posts

224 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Bollah said:
I'm liking this program for Julia Anderson, prancing around in a small top and knickers, with a massive rack, om nom nom lick
Is that the girl the two guys were peeping on with that camera thing ? If so i agree with you on the small top and pants prancing about-ness yum

Bollah

562 posts

204 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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huffysteve said:
Bollah said:
I'm liking this program for Julia Anderson, prancing around in a small top and knickers, with a massive rack, om nom nom lick
Is that the girl the two guys were peeping on with that camera thing ? If so i agree with you on the small top and pants prancing about-ness yum
That would be the one yumyum

clonmult

10,529 posts

226 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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huffysteve said:
Bollah said:
I'm liking this program for Julia Anderson, prancing around in a small top and knickers, with a massive rack, om nom nom lick
Is that the girl the two guys were peeping on with that camera thing ? If so i agree with you on the small top and pants prancing about-ness yum
nomnomnomnom until I can't nom anymore.

Was a little disappointed that a GIS didn't pull up anything juicy on her though.

im

34,302 posts

234 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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Whilst enjoying the new look & feel of this series there is 1 aspect of it that I feel lets it down and harks back to the bad old days of the Jack O'Neil era, namely those bloody mystical stones!

What a rubbish plot device to get cast members back and forward to Earth and totally out of sync with the new grittier and realistic edge they are trying to portray.

matt0677

509 posts

207 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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The stones are a bit cheesy but if they only use them for communication then it should be bearable. I've only seen the pilot and the desert planet episode so far.

I find the new approach very awesome. The characters in Atlantis (and SG1 to some extent) were caricatures but in Universe most people seem 3-dimensional... It seems like the producers have taken a good long look at BSG and Caprica, and learned from it - I am really impressed so far.

The soundtrack is also very good.

sidewayz

2,681 posts

258 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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im said:
shoggoth1 said:
For a start, doesn't the theory of relativity discount FTL travel anyway - nothing can travel faster?
Correct - all plausible means of humans getting anywhere that would ordinarily require FTL travel use Wormholes/Sub Space/Folding of Space etc as their work-around.
....unless they found a way to reduce mass to zero. Zero mass and FTL is mandatory-ask a photon.

"Engage the Higgs supressors Scotty" damn,wrong series.

Mr Fenix

863 posts

222 months

Monday 26th October 2009
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I' starting to like this series as well, even though I've never watched or been a fan of SG1 or SG-A.

The realism aspect is what's most interesting to me... and the chick with the massive hooters in tight tops.

davido140

9,614 posts

243 months

Monday 26th October 2009
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Aww come on, it's science fiction, who cares about how the FTL is supposed to work and any related time-dilation quibbles...

The funny coloured cloud looks pretty/cool, so why not...

The stories are fairly compelling so far, characters much more believable than SG1 and SGA, it's not entirely "tecno-babble" driven like so many SG1 and SGA episodes, Mckay would have fixed the ship and have it home by now if this was SGA...

I'm certainly enjoying it.