Online/On Demand TV?
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MiniMan64

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18,649 posts

210 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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I know people love a bit of BBC bashing on here but how is it that they can get the I-Player system SO right and yet and ITV and Channel 4's efforts are so completely rubbish? The quality on YouTube is better than either of them!

theboyfold

11,312 posts

246 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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It's just the level of compression that they use. The more compressed a file is, the less bandwidth is uses. The less bandwidth it uses, the cheaper is it to provide a service. Most viewers won't care / won't notice the difference.

Also, if you view downloaded stuff from iPlayer that will be a different (less compressed) format again. IIRC They get around the bandwidth cost of the download (not streaming) service by using a P2P system (Could be wrong on that though)

zac510

5,546 posts

226 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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The iPlayer is terrible for subtitles. Always a flat white colour, doesn't work on live television and often on replayed shows it can be 3 seconds delayed or they work for a bit and then says 'Subtitles not available'. Very annoying!

theboyfold

11,312 posts

246 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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Interesting to hear what you say about the subtitles. I'm just having a look now, where do you turn them on for the live stream, I can't see anything.

With regards to the delay, subtitles are normally produced using voice recognition, so that delay is down to the processing times involved. There are some details here if you are interested: http://www.redbeemedia.com/html/subtitling.html

zac510

5,546 posts

226 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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They don't work for the iplayer live stream whereas if you were watching it on regular TV broadcast it would have subs. I meant that when I said 'live' not as in live like the news or a sports broadcast. I know what you mean about those subtitles using speech recognition!

If you're looking for subtitles on a 'catch up' program sometimes it takes a while longer for them to add the subtitles. Not sure why.

Here is the official line on the delayed iplayer subtitles http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/accessi... . Come to think of it I haven't seen the problem for a few weeks so maybe they have or are in the process of fixing it already.