SD / HD/ Freeview
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The_Burg

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4,853 posts

235 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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I own a full HD TV and from close up SD looks terrible. But on some material the quality is amazing.
Recently 'Life' looked awesome. Obviously this could not have been more than SD resolution as i only have freeview.
Other stuff is appalling, of particular note was F1 this year, even from distance it still looked awefull. Initially i though this was maybe due to slow response times but this clearly not the case.
So why? Is it simply crap recoding? Or are some programs recorded well below SD quality? Same with the sound, total lack of bass on some stuff and others rattle the foundations.
TBH much TV would struggle to be to VHS standard let alone anything else.

callyman

3,183 posts

233 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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What TV do you have?

The_Burg

Original Poster:

4,853 posts

235 months

Wednesday 30th December 2009
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Sony Bravia 40" LCD.
Don't think it's an issue with the screen more the way the programs are recoded for broadcast.
As i said some programs look brilliant, others terrible. All are SD as i don't have any HD except Blueray.

varsas

4,071 posts

223 months

Wednesday 30th December 2009
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Different channels are broadcast at different bit rates, which affects the quality massively, also the compression used means sporting events (F1, football etc) with lots of movement will look worse (still shots take up less space, so can have greater fidelity) also movement is a double whammy because LCD's don't cope well with it.

SD/Freeview/Sky are not all the same. Freeview and sky have anamorphic widescreen (although I'm not convinced it's done 'properly' on sky, it doesn't look as good as it should to me), while (theoretically) terrestrial analogue has infinite horizontal resolution...which is, of course, no good on an LCD TV! Which gives the greatest resolution depends on what you are watching and how it's been framed for broadcast.

In practice, good freeview looks the best to me, then analogue, with sky SD the worst (could be my decoder of course...)

ETA freeview/Sky use totally different compression routines, terrestrial of course uses nothing at all.

Edited by varsas on Wednesday 30th December 12:50

derestrictor

18,764 posts

282 months

Wednesday 30th December 2009
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Bit rates, compression and production values: i.e. garbage in - garbage out. One of the primary reasons I spend so much time preaching to people about viewing distances and the subjective benefits associated with 'sweet spot areas.'


ajprice

31,716 posts

217 months

Wednesday 30th December 2009
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Certain shows like Life, Torchwood and, err, Hole In The Wall, are on the BBC HD channel. It might be that the good ones are good because they are filmed in HD, and shown on the HD channel as well as being downsampled for the standard signal. Downsampling from the HD film might give a better quality than a straight up standard feed.