DOG's or Digital Onscreen Graphics, like them or hate them?
DOG's or Digital Onscreen Graphics, like them or hate them?

Poll: DOG's or Digital Onscreen Graphics, like them or hate them?

Total Members Polled: 239

I like them : 3%
I hate them : 78%
No opinion either way : 19%
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Mr E Driver

Original Poster:

8,542 posts

207 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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On the BBC message boards there has been a thread running for over two years with most of the contributors against the DOG in the top LH corner of the HD channel and BBC3 and 4

Like them or loathe them?






Edited by Mr E Driver on Sunday 30th May 18:32

El Guapo

2,787 posts

213 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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This is one of my pet peeves. I dislike DOGs, "Coming Next" announcements and banners, credit hijacks and anything else that intrudes on the program that I am watching. The broadcasters always claim that their viewers like all this, but I don´t believe a word of it. If you want to know what channel you are watching, what program you are watching or what is on next, simply hit the Info button.

adycav

7,615 posts

240 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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What El Guapo said.

grumbledoak

32,384 posts

256 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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Pointless and hateful. Beaten only by the bloody "News Bunny".

I don't mind Virgin's "Coming next" thingy with the little Devil thing; it is vaguely amusing and over quickly.

Famous Graham

26,553 posts

248 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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I always understood they were a copyright/advertisement kind of thing. Like a watermark on a photo.

Edited by Famous Graham on Tuesday 25th May 22:44

FourWheelDrift

91,885 posts

307 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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Hate them, I know what channel I'm watching because I turned to it, I don't need to be continually reminded of the fact.

Halb

53,012 posts

206 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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El Guapo said:
This is one of my pet peeves. I dislike DOGs, "Coming Next" announcements and banners, credit hijacks and anything else that intrudes on the program that I am watching. The broadcasters always claim that their viewers like all this, but I don´t believe a word of it. If you want to know what channel you are watching, what program you are watching or what is on next, simply hit the Info button.
Agree. I saw this brought up on POV recently, and one of the people behind Blackadder lamented how telly has changed. Saying that something like the end credits of Blackadder II (all different and amusing) could not happen now to the info thingys and wkers talking over the music. I used to hate when trying to read the credits that they would cut them short or whizz them to a corner of the scren just to tell me some fat lump of a chef/house designer/gardern mangler was on next. I hate how this culture has slimed its way into the way programmes are shown.

Mr E Driver

Original Poster:

8,542 posts

207 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Famous Graham said:
I always understood they were a copyright/advertisement kind of thing. Like a watermark on a photo.
You are correct in that they are an advertisement............for the channel that has been chosen but they are nothing to do with copyright which needs a 'watermark' as TV is not pirated with DVD's on market stalls....'wanna buy last weeks 'Snog, Marry Avoid'...going cheap?


Famous Graham

26,553 posts

248 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Mr E Driver said:
Famous Graham said:
I always understood they were a copyright/advertisement kind of thing. Like a watermark on a photo.
You are correct in that they are an advertisement............for the channel that has been chosen but they are nothing to do with copyright which needs a 'watermark' as TV is not pirated with DVD's on market stalls....'wanna buy last weeks 'Snog, Marry Avoid'...going cheap?
TV most certainly is pirated. Maybe not so much in a physical form of DVDs (although that's not unheard of - Pacific for a recent example), but certainly online.

JontyR

1,924 posts

190 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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It wouldn't be so bad if at least they made it super transparent!!

The clock on BBC news is often sat right where something interesting is happening!

You would think these days that they could have these items on a button...so press the green button and the tat appears??

Mr E Driver

Original Poster:

8,542 posts

207 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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There is that facility on the remote with the i or info button! smile

va1o

16,096 posts

230 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Not much point using them on digital TV, I really don't see what use they serve. Same when you are watching live TV online on the iPlayer.

Eric Mc

124,811 posts

288 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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I was angry when the F2 logo appeared on the grands prix coverage a few years ago.

Did they think I didn't know what I was watching?

Russ35

2,663 posts

262 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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There was a campaign group 8 or 9 years back (logofreetv.org) that was started when DOGS were first being used heavily.

The guy running the campaign did get as far as having meetings with some of the big companies (BBC, ITV etc). Some of the other smaller channels did make modifications to their DOGS, making them transparent instead of solid etc.

The main argument for there use was due to the multi-channel environment and people channel hopping, so they needed a way to show what channel you were on.



Mr E Driver

Original Poster:

8,542 posts

207 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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I was watching Sky News last night and she kept saying 'Your watching Sky News'

I know I'm watching Sky News because there is a fking bright DOG on the top left corner you stupid cow mad

va1o

16,096 posts

230 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Why have you made the same post three times? I have read what you have to say, we get it, seriously, we do.

Mr E Driver

Original Poster:

8,542 posts

207 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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It is another way of bumping it to the top of the 'what's new list' as with it being in the 'TV, Film radio' section not as many see it as would see it if it was in The Lounge..........idea

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

278 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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You hooked me....

Mr E Driver

Original Poster:

8,542 posts

207 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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I wrote to ITV as their HD DOG is usually quite noticeable but looking on channel 119 it's not there.

Their reply...

Dear Steve

Thank you for your enquiry regarding the Digital On-screen Graphics (DOGS) on ITV channels.

Along with all other broadcasters, ITV is keen to actively promote and draw attention to our channels on the digital platforms. DOGS quickly identify our channels for viewers who now have scores of channels to choose from.

The logo is normally at the top left or right hand part of the picture to avoid clashing with subtitles or captions and this area of the screen rarely contains sensitive material which could be obscured.

The channel logos, apart from ITV1 HD, are now in colour to ensure our services stand out within a crowded, competitive multichannel market and to create an individual identity for each station. There are no plans to remove them.

We do hope the above information helps to explain the situation.

May I take this opportunity to thank you for taking the time to contact us here at ITV as we always welcome viewers’ feedback.


Regards

ITV VIEWER SERVICES – SH

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

278 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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Bet you're glad they replied...hehe

Is it true that plasma screens can be damaged by these pointless things?