Channel 4 - Marrying Cousins
Discussion
Besides the serious genetic time bomb ticking away, my one question watching the show is, and this is said as an immigrant, why have so many shown in the programme not learnt English? Is it a generational issue? The older generation did not want to learn English or had no need to speak English due to the community being able to support non English speakers, government provided translators etc.
I assume the younger, first generation people of Pakistani origin speak English and Urdu, as some of my work colleagues of Pakistani origin do, but it seems the older members of the community do not. Anyone got any insight or experience into this and the reason behind it?
I assume the younger, first generation people of Pakistani origin speak English and Urdu, as some of my work colleagues of Pakistani origin do, but it seems the older members of the community do not. Anyone got any insight or experience into this and the reason behind it?
anonymous said:
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I thought "in general" though they had accepted the problem and were even tracking it and advising against marriage for couples "at risk". Even those not closely related but with a family history of the problem.The refusal to look and see if there is a problem, and a solution, by some people in communities at risk is beyond me.
I regularly come into contact with Pakistani's, usually never left their home country and are from small towns/villages. We always chat about arranged marriages and the general opinion is marriage for love is becoming more popular with the younger generation.
That's not to say it's the same for residents of the UK but times are a changing.
On a rather amusing side note; I chatted to a young chap (first time abroad) who asked why people call him "
" in England when he could be from India. I awkwardly said it's not a nice thing for them to say and his reply was "Oh. I just said thanks that's right I am from Pakistan" 
He couldn't understand why is was offensive.
That's not to say it's the same for residents of the UK but times are a changing.
On a rather amusing side note; I chatted to a young chap (first time abroad) who asked why people call him "
" in England when he could be from India. I awkwardly said it's not a nice thing for them to say and his reply was "Oh. I just said thanks that's right I am from Pakistan" He couldn't understand why is was offensive.
Not watching this, hopefully the Humax will have got it.
But, yes, one of PH's Jewish contributors has talked about how their small community is actively testing for conditions that the larger population wouldn't even have heard of.
Sadly, it does seem that the 'other' community hasn't quite got to grips with the concept, though the two inbreds in "East is East" at least showed that some are aware.
But, yes, one of PH's Jewish contributors has talked about how their small community is actively testing for conditions that the larger population wouldn't even have heard of.
Sadly, it does seem that the 'other' community hasn't quite got to grips with the concept, though the two inbreds in "East is East" at least showed that some are aware.
What a worrying but insightful expose of an issue that has continually been brushed under the carpet. I thought it very well balanced and objective. One of the most telling points was the reluctance of MPs and local Councillors to tackle or even mention the issue. The Muslim/ Pakistani vote in certain areas is so strong and polarised that the Councillors & MPs fear being unseated if they utter anything that can be construed as even the slightest criticism of the Pakistani community. This aspect is actually worthy of a programme in itself.
I have no doubt that the programme was made at considerable personal risk to the presenter. I await the criticisms and death threats towards her for he un Islamic actions.
pp
I have no doubt that the programme was made at considerable personal risk to the presenter. I await the criticisms and death threats towards her for he un Islamic actions.
pp
anonymous said:
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It's a community with its routes and values firmly in Pakistan. Speaking Urdu or Punjabi at home is a sign of orthodoxy- too much Westernization / English speaking is a bad thing. Spouses are continually sought from rural Pakistan in order to counter the Westernization (or integration as right thinking people would call it). Couple this with the actions of the left wing local Councils in providing benefits, services translators means there is little need to speak English. Remember also immigration from Pakistan has gone on unabated whereas it has become a trickle from other non European countries.
pp
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