Star Wars re-re-release in 3D
Discussion
George just can't leave them alone...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11434...
Simon Peggs twitter post on it:
"Watching TPM (The Phantom Menace) in 3D would be like the car actually crashing into your face as opposed to just unfolding before your eyes"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11434...
Simon Peggs twitter post on it:
"Watching TPM (The Phantom Menace) in 3D would be like the car actually crashing into your face as opposed to just unfolding before your eyes"
I like Simon Pegg's comment. "watching these will be like the car actually crashing into you, rather than watching it uncoil on screen" (or words to that effect).
The "New Trilogy" were w
k anyway, they'll be no better in 3d.
Tthe originals were better before the "extra" guff that made no improvement to the film. I'm sure it'll net GL an extra humm vee though, so I can see why he would re release em...
The "New Trilogy" were w
k anyway, they'll be no better in 3d.Tthe originals were better before the "extra" guff that made no improvement to the film. I'm sure it'll net GL an extra humm vee though, so I can see why he would re release em...
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Ok, so how do you convert a film shot in 2D into 3D? 
I can understand how they can do it with Shrek and other fully computer generated movies, but for a live action film? I thought you needed special 3D cameras or is that how they make 3D films, by just processing the std footage afterwards?
I can understand how they can do it with Shrek and other fully computer generated movies, but for a live action film? I thought you needed special 3D cameras or is that how they make 3D films, by just processing the std footage afterwards?
But we've all got to buy the Blu-Ray versions first next year 
. And then in 5 years time by the 3D Blu-Ray versions . This is on top of the cassette story tapes, the VHS originals, the VHS Special Editions and the DVD Special Editions. 
George please step away from the ILM barn and make some fresh original films. You have the talent, use it.
. And then in 5 years time by the 3D Blu-Ray versions . This is on top of the cassette story tapes, the VHS originals, the VHS Special Editions and the DVD Special Editions. George please step away from the ILM barn and make some fresh original films. You have the talent, use it.
Edited by rufusruffcutt on Wednesday 29th September 14:50
Emeye said:
Ok, so how do you convert a film shot in 2D into 3D?
I can understand how they can do it with Shrek and other fully computer generated movies, but for a live action film? I thought you needed special 3D cameras or is that how they make 3D films, by just processing the std footage afterwards?
I don't know how they do it, but it can be done (although the results are NOt as good as filming in 3D from the start).I can understand how they can do it with Shrek and other fully computer generated movies, but for a live action film? I thought you needed special 3D cameras or is that how they make 3D films, by just processing the std footage afterwards?
The recent 'Clash of the Titans' (3D version) was just such a conversion. It's just a cynical money-making ploy as most films don't benefit from the 3D treatment at all.
rufusruffcutt said:
George please step away from the ILM barn and make some fresh original films. You have the talent, use it.
No, no, he doesn't.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzI-ZbcK_sw
The Hypno-Toad said:
rufusruffcutt said:
George please step away from the ILM barn and make some fresh original films. You have the talent, use it.
No, no, he doesn't.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzI-ZbcK_sw
Emeye said:
Ok, so how do you convert a film shot in 2D into 3D?
I can understand how they can do it with Shrek and other fully computer generated movies, but for a live action film? I thought you needed special 3D cameras or is that how they make 3D films, by just processing the std footage afterwards?
They go back frame by frame and plot points which go out or into the screen.I can understand how they can do it with Shrek and other fully computer generated movies, but for a live action film? I thought you needed special 3D cameras or is that how they make 3D films, by just processing the std footage afterwards?
As has been said, for other 'upconverted' films just as Alice in Wonderland the effect is not as good as with proper 3D cameras.
Also, it has to be said that for these films and Titans for example, after filming, and before the release date all of this work had to be done to make it 3D. In short, a rush job.
Cameron has been scathing of such jobs as it ruins the 3D 'brand' for those who want to do it properly from scratch.
I will daresay though that as with the late 90's remasters Star Wars had, it is NOT going to be a rush job, and they will spend years not a few weeks and do it properly.
I for one would love to see all 6 again in 3D.
rufusruffcutt said:
But we've all got to buy the Blue Ray versions first next year . And then in 5 years time by the 3D Blue Ray versions . This is on top of the cassette story tapes, the VHS originals, the VHS Special Editions and the DVD Special Editions.
George please step away from the ILM barn and make some fresh original films. You have the talent, use it.
Is a Blue Ray some sort of Ray Gun? Or do you mean Blu- Ray? . And then in 5 years time by the 3D Blue Ray versions . This is on top of the cassette story tapes, the VHS originals, the VHS Special Editions and the DVD Special Editions. George please step away from the ILM barn and make some fresh original films. You have the talent, use it.
MrV said:
Emeye said:
It's just a cynical money-making ploy
Pretty much but I come to expect it from him.If they make money from it then good luck to them - that will only mean they have done the job properly and people still want to enjoy it.
Emeye said:
Ok, so how do you convert a film shot in 2D into 3D?
In a similar way to the way they make these, by taking a 2D image and then displacing sections left/right.
(The way you view the above image is different from how you view a 3D movie of course, but the theory behind shifting bits of a 2D image to make it appear 3D is the same.)
As the other poster said, they go back over the film frame by frame and 'lassoo' the various sections that need to be 'foreground' or 'background' and then 'nudge' those sections of the image left or right by various degrees to change the percieved depth of that section. They obviously create two images from each source frame, one where the sections are nudged left, and one where they are nudged right. Then when you view each image with a seperate eye you percieve the depth due to the differing amounts of left/right displacement which your eye/brain interpret with things being near or far.
However this is converting a 2D image to a 3D one by having an 'artist' pick bits to bring forward or away. So it will never be as realistic as a proper 3D film. (2 ways to make a proper 3D film: 1. is to film real actors using a camera with two lenses spaced the same distance appart as your eyes, so each records just what your eyes would see if you were there. The 2nd is for CGI movies where they always create the 'world' in 3D and then 'render' it using a 'virtual camera'. To make 3D they just render it twice, displacing the virtual camera to create the two required angles.)
So, be careful when you're going to see a movie billed as being "In 3D" because 2D to 3D conversions will look bad compared to proper 3D shot or 3D rendered films.
Edited by mrmr96 on Wednesday 29th September 20:36
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