New Sky customer - do I really need a phone line connected
New Sky customer - do I really need a phone line connected
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007singh

Original Poster:

268 posts

192 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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So looking to have Sky installed at my new house, however, Sky seem to insist I have a fixed phoneline for them to plug the box into at the install.

Is this really needed? I guess it is used for interactive stuff and Pay Per View stuff, but apart from that, what else might it be needed for?

Would I be correct to assume the service will work perfectly fine without a phone line connected?

The issues with the phone line is that is a big job to have it moved/extended to reach the point where the sky boxes will be plugged in. If its a MUST, then I can do it, but wanted your advice on it first.

Also, had a BT chap round today to add a new phone line in, and he suggested two things:

1) Just run an extension inside the house for the purpose of the install (advise sky that it is being fitted to the wall later that week), then remove it once they have gone.

2) He said sometimes Sky will offer to not require a phoneline for the first 12 months if you pay a one off charge, of around £15.

So, advice and suggestions?

Mattt

16,664 posts

242 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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I guess it depends how anal the installer is.

First time we had an extension wire for him to use - then when we changed to Sky+ the other guy wasn't bothered.

We never leave it plugged in at other times.

williaa68

1,539 posts

190 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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I did option 1 at my parents place and the sky bloke was fine with it. After he had gone I just unplugged it. If you dont have multi-room and dont care about the interactive services I dont think you will have a problem.

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

230 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Mine isn't plugged into a phone line. I can't access box office films but I can live with that.

Mattt

16,664 posts

242 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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I've got multi-room now - and neither is plugged in.

okgo

41,557 posts

222 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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We unplugged ours and they sent us a strongly worded letter about a week later!

007singh

Original Poster:

268 posts

192 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Cheers guys, how did they know it was unplugged?

Im getting multiroom - does that mean i might need 2 extensions for the install?

onomatopoeia

3,523 posts

241 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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The installer for mine connected them up to the Virgin phone line the day after I moved in. I got BT in a few days later to put in the phone service I wanted and the Sky boxes remain connected to the Virign line, which no longer works.

Sky don't seem to care.

mxspyder

1,071 posts

189 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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I think with the phone line connected they can "manage" the Sky+ box. When a freind of ours cancelled his subscription - the box was wiped clean before he had put the phone down!

Kateg28

1,370 posts

187 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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If you get multi room you must have all the boxes plugged in to the same extension, this is to stop people getting cheap sky. I had it in my last house and they sent snotty letters saying it wasn't plugged in which I ignored. They then threatened to charge me for sky twice (once for each card) unless I plugged it in. I checked and whilst downstairs wasn't plugged in, upstairs was. So I plugged in downstairs and everyone happy.

Er no. It turns out sodding little mice had been having a munch at my expense and the cable upstairs was chewed all the way through.

Have moved now and not got multi room but be warned, they will eventually charge you for each card separately if you don't have them plugged in. And they are within their rights to do so.

oOTomOo

594 posts

215 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Our installer ran a cable to the box for the phone line..

Tycho

12,129 posts

297 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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mxspyder said:
I think with the phone line connected they can "manage" the Sky+ box. When a freind of ours cancelled his subscription - the box was wiped clean before he had put the phone down!
Not true. If your friend cancelled his sub then a message is sent via sat which stopped him from accessing recorded content as the Sky+ functionality isn't being paid for.

The phone line is for Box Office, interactive services etc. The box does a call back every month to verify it is where the contract says it should be. This is to make it difficult to use the box abroad as Sky are only allowed to broadcast in the UK.

007singh

Original Poster:

268 posts

192 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Cheers for the feedback guys, so I just got off the phone with them.

Ordered a multiroom package.

When I asked they guy about needing a phoneline, and that the box will be in a different location to the phone sockets, he said that was fine, they only need to plug it in to activate the box - so lets see what happens on the install now!

I did ask a few times, but he said it didnt need to be plugged in constantly, just for activation.

sjg

7,646 posts

289 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Multiroom they tend to care more about, it's a location check to ensure it's still in the same house and that you've not put it in your holiday home, or let a mate get your full package for £10 a month.

The T&Cs require you to keep the boxes plugged into the phoneline so that the check keeps working. Standard boxes they care a bit less about but it's required for the first year.

chris watton

22,547 posts

284 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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My parents (who we're living with right now whilst our house sale progresses..) don't even have a phone line! Does this mean they'd not be eligable for SKY?

Ciaran

1,474 posts

226 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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I've been with sky for about 10 years now and had multi room for about 3. I've never connected my phone line to either of the boxes.

Edited by Ciaran on Thursday 14th October 17:05

DSLiverpool

16,139 posts

226 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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You can get a mains / dect sender to do so - search on amazon for RTX phonejack they work well and cost about £30

The Highway Man

7,172 posts

202 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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I've got multi room, the main sky+ box in the living room is plugged into the phone line, the old box up in the bedroom hasn't even got a phone socket in the room (cordless phone wired downstairs)
The engineer installing the multi room said nothing when he put the box in the bedroom.

Victor McDade

4,395 posts

206 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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I have multi room and neither of the boxes have been connected to a telephone line for over 2 years. And I haven't heard a thing from Sky.


Victor McDade

4,395 posts

206 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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chris watton said:
My parents (who we're living with right now whilst our house sale progresses..) don't even have a phone line! Does this mean they'd not be eligable for SKY?
In theory they are not entitled to the free box which sky give their new customers. They would have to pay the full cost of the box but could still get sky.