Japan the latest to be offended by the BBC
Japan the latest to be offended by the BBC
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El Guapo

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2,787 posts

220 months

Saturday 5th February 2011
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"Plans for Stephen Fry to film part of a documentary series in Japan have been shelved after complaints about nuclear bomb jokes in his quiz show QI."

Link to BBC story

FFS. There was nothing remotely insulting about that segment.

Right, who is left to offend now? Maybe the BBC should talk about cuckoo clocks to upset the Swiss.

davepoth

29,395 posts

229 months

Saturday 5th February 2011
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Technically that was a couple of months ago. And they are incredibly sensitive about the atomic bombs.









mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Saturday 5th February 2011
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davepoth said:
Technically that was a couple of months ago. And they are incredibly sensitive about the atomic bombs + pics
Your point being..?



tank slapper

7,949 posts

313 months

Saturday 5th February 2011
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davepoth said:
TAnd they are incredibly sensitive about the atomic bombs.
Japan shouldn't get on the high-horse of victimhood quite so readily when talking about world war two. The list of atrocities perpetrated by them during that period is far longer than those fighting against them.

davepoth

29,395 posts

229 months

Saturday 5th February 2011
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tank slapper said:
Japan shouldn't get on the high-horse of victimhood quite so readily when talking about world war two. The list of atrocities perpetrated by them during that period is far longer than those fighting against them.
But then you will never, ever, hear them taking the piss out of what they did during the war. I think you'd be equally as incensed as they are if they made a joke about the Burma Railway. And remember that despite what history says, nobody ever wins a war.

El Guapo

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220 months

Sunday 6th February 2011
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As I recall, Fry and Co weren't making light of the blasts themselves, it was about one man who had been unfortunate enough to be caught in both blasts, although he survived. The theme of the segment was an attempt to decide whether this chap was the unluckiest or the luckiest man of the time. Fry also commented on the fact that trains were running the day after Hiroshima. There was nothing offensive or derogatory in what was broadcast.

davepoth

29,395 posts

229 months

Sunday 6th February 2011
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El Guapo said:
As I recall, Fry and Co weren't making light of the blasts themselves, it was about one man who had been unfortunate enough to be caught in both blasts, although he survived. The theme of the segment was an attempt to decide whether this chap was the unluckiest or the luckiest man of the time. Fry also commented on the fact that trains were running the day after Hiroshima. There was nothing offensive or derogatory in what was broadcast.
To us, nothing offensive or derogatory. To the Japanese, not so much. Let's keep this in perspective. I don't think anybody who was expected to be watching QI (British) actually complained about it.

QI has a forum, which has a good thread about it.

http://www.qi.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=20489&p...

davepoth

29,395 posts

229 months

Sunday 6th February 2011
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OK, changed my tune a little. I dug through that thread and found a quote.

"In Japan, Toshiko Yamasaki, 62, Yamaguchi’s oldest daughter living in Nagasaki, expressed her anger about the issue, saying on Friday, “I cannot forgive (the quiz show) as it looked down on my father’s experiences when the world is moving toward nuclear disarmament.”

She added her family had laughingly talked about her father being unlucky, but “it is a different story when (my father) was treated in that way in Britain, a nuclear-capable nation.”

Such a problem happens due in part to “a lack of seriousness about nuclear reduction,” she said."

W. T. F.

I'm not sure her argument really holds all that much water in that case.

And then I dredged this up.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/how-i...

"Some have called Mr Yamaguchi the luckiest man alive, but his daughter says he rarely considers such things. "He laughs when asked why he was so lucky," says Toshiko. "He just doesn't know."

He was nuked twice, and still managed to chuckle a bit about it.

EDLT

15,421 posts

236 months

Sunday 6th February 2011
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Something was lost in translation (ba-dum) I think, the joke was that Japan got it's trains running within a day of the a-bomb attacks but we struggle with the wrong type of leaves iirc.

Rich_W

12,548 posts

242 months

Monday 7th February 2011
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I always thought Jap humour was quite dark compared to Uk/Us type. confused

You do wonder if the Japanese lady in question was actually told exactly the context of QIs comments.