Planning Outlaws - Gulzar...
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mantis84

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1,501 posts

194 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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Anyone watching this on Channel 4 now? Seems Mr Gulzar is having a bit of planning trouble...

Ed.M

107 posts

239 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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He's a bit older than I'd thought.

JQ

6,869 posts

210 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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What a great programme. What a bunch of idiots.


Bungleaio

6,594 posts

233 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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Some bizarre opinions going on. The bloke that built on the green belt needs a slap but the most ridiculous was the one with the granny annexe how he thought he would get away with that I have no idea.

Gulzar

745 posts

217 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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In the grand theme of things not really as its just petty, we loose nothing from keeping/removing but more a matter of principle. Just extremely long delays/waiting times between replies/responses/court dates and not much expense as all issues are dealth with inhouse and no lawyers. I feel very sorry for the lady whose house was bulldozed thats just taking it above and beyond and just goes to proove what council members can do if they have a grudge against you !

Agrilla

834 posts

214 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Have to say, didn't see the problem with the oversized King of the Jungle garden gnomes (and once the garden has matured a bit with more plants/trees the other decorative ornaments in the theme park style could look quirky in a good way), but that guy who just decided to build his house bigger than the plans submitted must've done it with full knowledge of the risks of doing it that way, and with utter arrogance.

I'm guessing he was some sort of entrepreneur, and appeared to be pretty successful and will no doubt have achieved that position by bags of hard work, a little luck and a keen eye for a calculated risk - which is great for the economy and all the people he employs, however here this risk he took didn't come off, and he should have just taken it like a man.

When he said that he hadn't realised that the demolition order was final, I did chuckle - I can't believe for a second that he would have been that naive and his mother being dragged off in her car was just a joke.


(PS, in the 6ft lion bit of the programme, did you see the colour of the manky journalist's keyboard bleurgh!!!! vomit I think he needs the people from Life of Grime 'round next)

Halb

53,012 posts

214 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Gulzar said:
...just goes to proove what council members can do if they have a grudge against you !
Sadly true.


Is this going to be repeated?

Eric Mc

125,866 posts

296 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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And why do these "grudges" occur in the first place?

Manks

28,176 posts

253 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Eric Mc said:
And why do these "grudges" occur in the first place?
Because the "outlaws" believe that they should be able to do what they like and because planning officers like to exert their little bit of power as far as possible. When neither side will back down, a grudge match ensues.

From what little I saw of the program, it appeared that Mr Gulzar is a council's preferred sort of target. The cost of enforcement action minimal and the victory highly visible.

Had Mr Gulzar been Tesco, with an aggressive planning consultant alongside, the council's enforcement officers would have been out there helping to re-paint the lions.

mantis84

Original Poster:

1,501 posts

194 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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I have to say the chap who was taking issue with the lions appeared to be an incredibly sad and bitter man and almost appeared to have ulterior EDL-esque motives. Mr Gulzar summed it up brilliantly with his comparison with the old bloke's shirt - he might not like it, but that doesn't mean he can take it from him or damage it.

There's a big difference between a putting up a couple of ornamental lions without being aware of it being against the rules (and they might be a tad garish but essentially harmless) and deliberately and mischievously building a house much bigger than the plans allowed like the spiv entrepreneur did. He was a complete prat and deserved everything he got. The hippy bloke was... just a hippy really.

ETA - It's a floodgates issue aswell. The council does have to be seen to be taking enforcement action otherwise everyone would be allowed to build whatever they wanted in breach of rules which exist for the benefit of all.

Edited by mantis84 on Tuesday 22 March 10:15

Eric Mc

125,866 posts

296 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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I've come across a few people in our area who have had planning issues. Some have "got away" with it and others haven't - mainly down to atitude of both the council and/or the defendent.

Halb

53,012 posts

214 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Eric Mc said:
And why do these "grudges" occur in the first place?
I know the one my mother had to put up with was because she part of a successful business and owned a big house, the communist at the planning office asked why she thought she should live in a big house and that she should give up rooms to the needy of the area etc. That frackwit stayed on the committee for years, and blocked anything nice that my parents wanted to do to the place.

DayTrader

776 posts

198 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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Ed.M said:
He's a bit older than I'd thought.
I'm assuming it's the lad on here's Dad...

monthefish

20,467 posts

262 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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DayTrader said:
Ed.M said:
He's a bit older than I'd thought.
I'm assuming it's the lad on here's Dad...
Yes, there's a photo of him on one of the threads and he's a lot younger than the chap in the program.

Edited by monthefish on Friday 22 July 16:43

monthefish

20,467 posts

262 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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Halb said:
Gulzar said:
...just goes to proove what council members can do if they have a grudge against you !
Sadly true.


Is this going to be repeated?
Still available on 4od

0a

24,160 posts

225 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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monthefish said:
Halb said:
Gulzar said:
...just goes to proove what council members can do if they have a grudge against you !
Sadly true.


Is this going to be repeated?
Still available on 4od
Watching it now... sorry I can understand why people objected!