The Met Office - utterly useless.
The Met Office - utterly useless.
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Manks

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28,176 posts

253 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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Weather is news right? Correct board then I hope.

I am sitting typing this grumpily because the Met Office is telling me my local forecast is no rain till Wednesday, yet I cannot go out and wash my car because it is raining.

Yesterday, the Met Office was saying that it would rain every day EXCEPT Wednesday.

The BBC, who if I recall correctly use the Met Office, are also saying it isn't raining.

Google, on the other hand, seems to be suggesting that the rain I am experiencing is actual and that there will likely be some more tomorrow. Very much more helpful.

We as tax payers pay for the Public Weather Service to (according the Met Office) "Produce weather forecasts which help the UK public make informed decisions about day-to-day activities".

Yuh, right. Time to stop their funding, hang some seaweed in the porch, watch the cows to see if they are laying down and use Google.

Useless bast ards.



foreverdriving

1,869 posts

281 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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"BBQ summer"
"Mild winter"

They can't get anything right.

fergywales

1,624 posts

225 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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foreverdriving said:
"BBQ summer"
"Mild winter"

They can't get anything right.
Wintery summer is the term you're looking for wink

Tsippy

15,078 posts

200 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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foreverdriving said:
"BBQ summer"
"Mild winter"

They can't get anything right.
Since they'ce claimed this (past several years if I remember correctly), has it actually happened?

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

198 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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Weather has all sorts of factors that influence it lcally, not just globally. They can't give a forecast for every square foot of land, can they?

Why can't you wash your car in the rain anyway? I only wash mine when it is raining, it does a miles better job and only take 5 minutes.

I guess you don;t have much to worry aboutsmile

fergywales

1,624 posts

225 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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Willy Nilly said:
Weather has all sorts of factors that influence it lcally, not just globally. They can't give a forecast for every square foot of land, can they?
The topography of the UK means that our weather is some of the most unpredictable in the World.

I've been in countries with huge landmass where weather reports have been able to say "it is going to rain at 3pm today in x areas" and they get it right.

Best weather forecast in the UK; eyes. Look out the window, you can tell what it is doing. Just have an umbrella for an hours time when it pisses it down hehe

DonkeyApple

70,847 posts

200 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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This is the problem with modern, soft, society. The weather used to be something that was happening while you were doing whatever it was you wanted to do.

Nowadays it seems to have become the thing that controls what you do and when.

If you think long and hard about it, we simply have no need to know what the weather will be or is supposed to be unless we are scared of rain or sun or are low IQ and our carer forgets the umbrella or sun cream.


Morningside

24,147 posts

260 months

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

277 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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Manks said:
Weather is news right?
By definition "news" is in the past tense - the reporting of factual stuff which is known.

Since the weather slot is a "forecast" it is purely speculative and cannot fall within the usual definition of news.

However, this is Pitonheads where NPE rarely troubles itself with facts and much prefers speculation. As such, you have picked exactly the right forum!! biggrin

OzOs

Pesty

42,655 posts

287 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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They forcast rain for saturday where I was going right up until friday night. Not a drop all day, good job I never cancelled my plans

jake15919

738 posts

196 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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Ozzie Osmond said:
By definition "news" is in the past tense - the reporting of factual stuff which is known.

Since the weather slot is a "forecast" it is purely speculative and cannot fall within the usual definition of news.

However, this is Pitonheads where NPE rarely troubles itself with facts and much prefers speculation. As such, you have picked exactly the right forum!! biggrin

OzOs
As the op isn't blaming Blair, Brown, immigrants or lefties I would suggest he has picked the wrong forum. smile

jmorgan

36,010 posts

315 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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It is a forecast. Best guess and all that. I usually find they are right but the timing is an issue. But then I am in Wales and rain is an inevitability anyway.

Riley Blue

23,217 posts

257 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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I've been waiting for a dry day to mow my lawn. There hasn't been one, the grass is still growing - should I complain about the Met Office?

Pork

9,455 posts

265 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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I've often marvelled at how much money is wasted on forecasting the weather. When I used to cycle to work, they got the wind wrong pretty much every single day. The weather, unless we were in the middle of a heatwave or a particularly rainy patch, was also usually pretty poorly forecasted.

What I don't get is that no one has said to them "listen, you're constanly getting it wrong, and very often, not even close to right, so how about the millions we spend, we uses on a massive redundancy pay out and all go home?"

Any then they expect us to think they know what going to happen in 5, 10 or 20 years time? Shyeah, righto chaps.

Eric Mc

125,916 posts

296 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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Do people think that weather forecasting works on some sort of "magic" calirvoyance system?

Have people never tried to understand the basics physics behind weather charts and forecasting?

Police State

4,381 posts

251 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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Manks said:
Weather is news right? Correct board then I hope.

I am sitting typing this grumpily because the Met Office is telling me my local forecast is no rain till Wednesday, yet I cannot go out and wash my car because it is raining.

Yesterday, the Met Office was saying that it would rain every day EXCEPT Wednesday.

The BBC, who if I recall correctly use the Met Office, are also saying it isn't raining.

Google, on the other hand, seems to be suggesting that the rain I am experiencing is actual and that there will likely be some more tomorrow. Very much more helpful.

We as tax payers pay for the Public Weather Service to (according the Met Office) "Produce weather forecasts which help the UK public make informed decisions about day-to-day activities".

Yuh, right. Time to stop their funding, hang some seaweed in the porch, watch the cows to see if they are laying down and use Google.

Useless bast ards.
what 'general' area are you in?

Eric Mc

125,916 posts

296 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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General Ignorance?

Police State

4,381 posts

251 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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Eric Mc said:
General Ignorance?
He, being the victor in the famous battle of Cromarty... or was that German Bight?


Man from UNCLE

3,762 posts

249 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Do people think that weather forecasting works on some sort of "magic" calirvoyance system?

Have people never tried to understand the basics physics behind weather charts and forecasting?
With all due respect I think you maybe missing the op's point, I think he's simply asking why do they bother, I don't think he's denying the fact that they have genuine difficulties predicting the weather. The problem as I see it is the met office, or at least the presenters, are regularly telling us with such certainty what the weather will be like tomorrow without using words like maybe, possibly, etc. It comes across as though it's fact & they are 100% positive rather than coming across as the rough guide that it actually is.

rs1952

5,247 posts

290 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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fergywales said:
Willy Nilly said:
Weather has all sorts of factors that influence it lcally, not just globally. They can't give a forecast for every square foot of land, can they?
The topography of the UK means that our weather is some of the most unpredictable in the World.

I've been in countries with huge landmass where weather reports have been able to say "it is going to rain at 3pm today in x areas" and they get it right.

Best weather forecast in the UK; eyes. Look out the window, you can tell what it is doing. Just have an umbrella for an hours time when it pisses it down hehe
Somebody once described UK weather forecasting to me as a bit like trying to predict the outcome of a horse race. You have a number of competing elelments, and you can study the form book and come up with the theoretical positions of each horse (weather element) at the finishing line. Real life, however, ain't like that, and all you need is an outsider coming through at the last minute to make an utter balls up of your predicitions.

You are better off watching your local forecast rather than the national one of you want an idea of what is most likely to happen in your area. Better still, try
http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/10209 put in your town or postcode, select "last 12 hours" and draw your own conclusions - ie. make your own forecast smile