inflation rate rises to 4.5%
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Fittster

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20,120 posts

243 months

Tuesday 17th May 2011
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Another huge fail for Merv and the crew.

"The UK Consumer Prices Index (CPI) annual rate of inflation rose to 4.5% in April, up from 4% in March.

The rise was due to a jump in transport costs, particularly air and sea fares, and alcohol and tobacco.

However, the Retail Prices Index (RPI) measure of inflation - which includes mortgage interest payments - fell slightly to 5.2% from 5.3% in March.

The rise in CPI was bigger than analysts had forecast and follows a surprise fall in the index last month.

CPI is now at its highest level since October 2008.

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said "by far the largest upward effect" on prices came from air transport, where fares rose by 29% between March and April. Sea fares rose by 22.3%.

It said the fact that Easter was in April this year but in March last year partly explained the jump in prices.

Alcoholic drinks and tobacco rose by a record 5.3% in April.

These price rises more than offset a 1.3% fall in clothing and footwear prices."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13421614

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 17th May 2011
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Useless fkers. Just raise interest rates you mongs.

Fittster

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20,120 posts

243 months

Tuesday 17th May 2011
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garyhun said:
Useless fkers. Just raise interest rates you mongs.
And risk bring down the house of cards built on cheap credit? Merv might not get those nice lucrative executive position when he leaves the BoE if he did that.

greygoose

9,669 posts

225 months

Tuesday 17th May 2011
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Fittster said:
garyhun said:
Useless fkers. Just raise interest rates you mongs.
And risk bring down the house of cards built on cheap credit? Merv might not get those nice lucrative executive position when he leaves the BoE if he did that.
I'm not sure the government would thank him for ramping up interest rates at the moment either.

Tsippy

15,078 posts

199 months

Tuesday 17th May 2011
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So if taxation was cut on fuel to bring it down to say, £1 a litre, inflation would drop too right?


anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 17th May 2011
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greygoose said:
Fittster said:
garyhun said:
Useless fkers. Just raise interest rates you mongs.
And risk bring down the house of cards built on cheap credit? Merv might not get those nice lucrative executive position when he leaves the BoE if he did that.
I'm not sure the government would thank him for ramping up interest rates at the moment either.
Oh I know. It just get's on my tits this "supposed" aim to keep inflation in check and be "independent". It's all political bks.

greygoose

9,669 posts

225 months

Tuesday 17th May 2011
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garyhun said:
Oh I know. It just get's on my tits this "supposed" aim to keep inflation in check and be "independent". It's all political bks.
Very true.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

234 months

Tuesday 17th May 2011
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garyhun said:
Useless fkers. Just raise interest rates you mongs.
Please explain how doubling my mortgage will make flights cheaper


Just curious

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 17th May 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
Please explain how doubling my mortgage will make flights cheaper


Just curious
It wont, us raising interest rates wont bring down the price of fuel which is the main inflationary pressure. All it will do is stunt the already faltering recovery.

Nobody will invest in the UK until we rule out further quantitive easing so an interest rate rise wont help our appalling exchange rate either.

We are basically FUBAR'd

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

234 months

Tuesday 17th May 2011
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Bluequay said:
thinfourth2 said:
Please explain how doubling my mortgage will make flights cheaper


Just curious
It wont, us raising interest rates wont bring down the price of fuel which is the main inflationary pressure. All it will do is stunt the already faltering recovery.

Nobody will invest in the UK until we rule out further quantitive easing so an interest rate rise wont help our appalling exchange rate either.

We are basically FUBAR'd
So doubling my mortgage will make me and thousands of others homeless and bankrupt while keep fuel prices stay high.

Sounds like a brilliant idea

NoelWatson

11,710 posts

272 months

Tuesday 17th May 2011
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Bluequay said:
It wont, us raising interest rates wont bring down the price of fuel which is the main inflationary pressure. All it will do is stunt the already faltering recovery.
Do you not think raising rates won't strengthen the £, thereby reducing cost of fuel? Can you give breakdown to suggest fuel is the main inflationary pressure? Reason I ask is because Core CPI, which excludes food and energy, is at a record 3.7%

Edited by NoelWatson on Tuesday 17th May 11:21

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 17th May 2011
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NoelWatson said:
Do you not think raising rates won't strengthen the £, thereby reducing cost of fuel? Can you give breakdown to suggest fuel is the main inflationary pressure? Reason I ask is because Core CPI, which excludes food and energy, is at a record 3.7%

Edited by NoelWatson on Tuesday 17th May 11:21
I don't believe it will cause a strengthening of the £ until we rule out further QoS, the benefits for an extra .5% are soon wiped away when the government decides to print another £200 billion.

You are quite right Core CPI doesn't include fuel, but it does include the cost of manufacturing\delivering\powering and heating of the industrys that produce our goods and services. Therefore it very much does include the cost of fuel, just not it's headline rate.

Jackleman

974 posts

196 months

Tuesday 17th May 2011
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There are plenty of people who manage their finances responsibly and do not owe a mountain of debt who currently get fk all for their savings and are also facing the high cost of living. Why should they be propping up those who got greedy buying property way beyond their means.

I think interest rates will have to go up soon, the cost of property is to bloody high anyway. It is time for proper readjustment, the housing bubble hasn't burst, it just has a slow leak. The sooner we stop prolonging the agony the longer uncertainty will continue.

Gargamel

16,393 posts

291 months

Tuesday 17th May 2011
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Could join the euro I suppose....

frontbum

6,072 posts

189 months

Tuesday 17th May 2011
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Jackleman said:
There are plenty of people who manage their finances responsibly and do not owe a mountain of debt who currently get fk all for their savings and are also facing the high cost of living. Why should they be propping up those who got greedy buying property way beyond their means.

I think interest rates will have to go up soon, the cost of property is to bloody high anyway. It is time for proper readjustment, the housing bubble hasn't burst, it just has a slow leak. The sooner we stop prolonging the agony the longer uncertainty will continue.
Hold on - it wasn't a case of getting greedy and buying beyond our means. Prices were what they were, rent was the same or more than a mortgage, so what exactly were people supposed to do? Get in the 100 mile long queue for a council flat?

NoelWatson

11,710 posts

272 months

Tuesday 17th May 2011
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frontbum said:
Jackleman said:
There are plenty of people who manage their finances responsibly and do not owe a mountain of debt who currently get fk all for their savings and are also facing the high cost of living. Why should they be propping up those who got greedy buying property way beyond their means.

I think interest rates will have to go up soon, the cost of property is to bloody high anyway. It is time for proper readjustment, the housing bubble hasn't burst, it just has a slow leak. The sooner we stop prolonging the agony the longer uncertainty will continue.
Hold on - it wasn't a case of getting greedy and buying beyond our means. Prices were what they were, rent was the same or more than a mortgage, so what exactly were people supposed to do? Get in the 100 mile long queue for a council flat?
Rent

superkartracer

8,959 posts

252 months

Tuesday 17th May 2011
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garyhun said:
Useless fkers. Just raise interest rates you mongs.
It would kill the UK stone dead

NoelWatson

11,710 posts

272 months

Tuesday 17th May 2011
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superkartracer said:
garyhun said:
Useless fkers. Just raise interest rates you mongs.
It would kill the UK stone dead
As will mass inflation.

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 17th May 2011
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NoelWatson said:
frontbum said:
Jackleman said:
There are plenty of people who manage their finances responsibly and do not owe a mountain of debt who currently get fk all for their savings and are also facing the high cost of living. Why should they be propping up those who got greedy buying property way beyond their means.

I think interest rates will have to go up soon, the cost of property is to bloody high anyway. It is time for proper readjustment, the housing bubble hasn't burst, it just has a slow leak. The sooner we stop prolonging the agony the longer uncertainty will continue.
Hold on - it wasn't a case of getting greedy and buying beyond our means. Prices were what they were, rent was the same or more than a mortgage, so what exactly were people supposed to do? Get in the 100 mile long queue for a council flat?
Rent
?

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 17th May 2011
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superkartracer said:
It would kill the UK stone dead
Not if it's done gradually. It's got to happen at some time so my view is a gradual rise starting now rather than a sudden one in a year or 2. Make people realise that these rates are not here for the long run.