New York bans outdoor smoking...
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New York has apparently banned smoking in public outdoor places such as beaches and parks.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13467728
I'm all in favour of the current ban on smoking in enclosed public places, but this just seems utterly absurd!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13467728
I'm all in favour of the current ban on smoking in enclosed public places, but this just seems utterly absurd!
Guam said:
Not the first time they have done this, at the beginning of the 20th century it was illegal for Women to smoke in Public.
The tobacco industry organised smoke ins and had Women light up during the St Patricks day Parade. Job done law repealed.
I Suspect this will go the same way, typical nanny state approach infinging on peoples right to choose
I dunno about that, Guam. People are already banned from smoking in the grounds of my local hospitals. Even outside. So, why not a blanket ban? Smokers are in retreat and I can't see the pressure letting off any time soon.The tobacco industry organised smoke ins and had Women light up during the St Patricks day Parade. Job done law repealed.
I Suspect this will go the same way, typical nanny state approach infinging on peoples right to choose
When I was a smoker I used always get out of the way of everyone to smoke. I knew how much it annoyed people to be sucking on my second hand smoke so I tried to limit it as much as possible. I would never smoke on a beach if near people and then I would always take my butts with me. These laws just seem to be in place of common courtesy and shouldn't be needed but apparently they are.
As for enforcing the law, Time square has hundreds of cops always there and you should remember that beaches in America come with their own armed police.
Having said all that I do find myself following smokers as I still love the smell.
As for enforcing the law, Time square has hundreds of cops always there and you should remember that beaches in America come with their own armed police.
Having said all that I do find myself following smokers as I still love the smell.
Guam said:
Oh give it a rest this is Out doors not indoors, driving your car on the roads impinges on the rights of non drivers where does this nonsense end?
Typical of the Anti Smoking Fascists to come up with b
ks like that!
Trouble is that bars and pubs are much nicer places to be these days since the smoking ban.Typical of the Anti Smoking Fascists to come up with b
ks like that!With my devil's advocate hat on.....
Anyone seen the outsides of pubs these days? Fag ends everywhere. And lets face it, when smokers can't be bothered to put their fag ends in the bin, why shouldn't it be banned in public places?
I'm not a proper smoker, but I don't/wouldn't support these bans.
Nightclubs now smell of body odour rather than cigarettes. I'm not particularly a fan of either smell but I'd take cigarettes every time.
I can no longer relax in my local by the fire with a few chums who want to smoke nice cigar, which added to the atmosphere.
Banning smoking outdoors, even in public places, is a step too far.
Nightclubs now smell of body odour rather than cigarettes. I'm not particularly a fan of either smell but I'd take cigarettes every time.
I can no longer relax in my local by the fire with a few chums who want to smoke nice cigar, which added to the atmosphere.
Banning smoking outdoors, even in public places, is a step too far.
Guam said:
B Cig Ends are Biodegradable first time it rains they are gone, the only Eco friendly litter out there, all the crap the holier than thou anti smoking brigade drop into the bins will still be in land fill in centuries, fag ends are gone in under a week usually.
Just because something washes away doesn't mean its biodegradable. Cig Ends are Biodegradable first time it rains they are gone, the only Eco friendly litter out there, all the crap the holier than thou anti smoking brigade drop into the bins will still be in land fill in centuries, fag ends are gone in under a week usually.
They still end up somewhere else you know.Edit: fag butts don't decompose within a week, do they?
Anyway, I guess its a small step in the process of completely banning smoking. The bottom line is that smoking is hardly a 'modern values' thing. Everything about it reeks of old fashioned values and its not hard to imagine a day where the sight of someone smoking will be an odd one.
I don't think it should be banned though.... cos I like the odd cig and I don't wanna be stopped
Edited by Shay HTFC on Monday 23 May 19:44
tinman0 said:
Trouble is that bars and pubs are much nicer places to be these days since the smoking ban.
With my devil's advocate hat on.....
Anyone seen the outsides of pubs these days? Fag ends everywhere. And lets face it, when smokers can't be bothered to put their fag ends in the bin, why shouldn't it be banned in public places?
What bin?With my devil's advocate hat on.....
Anyone seen the outsides of pubs these days? Fag ends everywhere. And lets face it, when smokers can't be bothered to put their fag ends in the bin, why shouldn't it be banned in public places?
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