Guaranteed Interview Scheme
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davislove

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2,295 posts

276 months

Friday 27th May 2011
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Has anyone read about the 'Guaranteed Interview Scheme' run by some large employers for those with a disability.

As as long as the minimum criteria for the role is satisfied, an interview is guaranteed.

This strikes me as a little unfair to the rest and creates an uneven playing field in my view.

Now I don't have a disability, and can only imagine the challenges that those who do face in life, but I would want to be selected for my ability to perform the role not on the basis of my condition.

Views?


Puggit

49,821 posts

278 months

Friday 27th May 2011
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Positive discrimination is discrimination against everyone else.

JustinP1

13,363 posts

260 months

Friday 27th May 2011
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American Football teams also have a guaranteed interview scheme for black applicants.

turbobloke

117,354 posts

290 months

Friday 27th May 2011
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Surely to be truly equal there should be positive discrimination in favour of able bodied people too. Tnen forget the whole thing as it's equal for everyone so as we were. Where were we?

Jasandjules

72,633 posts

259 months

Saturday 28th May 2011
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Discrimination is discrimination, no matter what the form. It's not nice either way.


thinfourth2

32,414 posts

234 months

Saturday 28th May 2011
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davislove said:
Now I don't have a disability,
Invent one

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

261 months

Saturday 28th May 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
davislove said:
Now I don't have a disability,
Invent one
He does.He's impedimentally challenged. smile

shauniebabes

445 posts

206 months

Saturday 28th May 2011
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davislove said:
Has anyone read about the 'Guaranteed Interview Scheme' run by some large employers for those with a disability.

As as long as the minimum criteria for the role is satisfied, an interview is guaranteed.

This strikes me as a little unfair to the rest and creates an uneven playing field in my view.

Now I don't have a disability, and can only imagine the challenges that those who do face in life, but I would want to be selected for my ability to perform the role not on the basis of my condition.

Views?
The employer is happy to interview the candidate, the candidate meets the requirements for the job, other candidates are also interviewed, the best candidate gets the job. The problem is ?

Halb

53,012 posts

213 months

Saturday 28th May 2011
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randlemarcus said:
thinfourth2 said:
davislove said:
Now I don't have a disability,
Invent one
He does.He's impedimentally challenged. smile
He's a labour supporter?

JustinP1 said:
American Football teams also have a guaranteed interview scheme for black applicants.
Isn't there a good chance they will be pretty fast?biggrin

JustinP1

13,363 posts

260 months

Saturday 28th May 2011
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shauniebabes said:
The employer is happy to interview the candidate, the candidate meets the requirements for the job, other candidates are also interviewed, the best candidate gets the job. The problem is ?
This year's Men's Olympic 100m final is going to be 'unfair' against me.

I mean, it's 'racist', no? I'm going to ask them to chance the rules to make it easier for white guys and just put me in the final. To show you how unfair it is at the moment, I would be the first white finalist for about 30 years!

Fair?

Or is there going to be someone who deserves the spot much more than me who I have just displaced because of the colour of my skin?

JustinP1

13,363 posts

260 months

Saturday 28th May 2011
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Halb said:
JustinP1 said:
American Football teams also have a guaranteed interview scheme for black applicants.
Isn't there a good chance they will be pretty fast?biggrin
Sorry, I should have been more specific - When they interview for the role of Head Coach they must interview an african american. Have done so for the last ten years.

Although I see we were thinking the same thing at the same time as you can see from my post above...

turbobloke

117,354 posts

290 months

Saturday 28th May 2011
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shauniebabes said:
davislove said:
Has anyone read about the 'Guaranteed Interview Scheme' run by some large employers for those with a disability.

As as long as the minimum criteria for the role is satisfied, an interview is guaranteed.

This strikes me as a little unfair to the rest and creates an uneven playing field in my view.

Now I don't have a disability, and can only imagine the challenges that those who do face in life, but I would want to be selected for my ability to perform the role not on the basis of my condition.

Views?
The employer is happy to interview the candidate, the candidate meets the requirements for the job, other candidates are also interviewed, the best candidate gets the job. The problem is ?
The problem is that only a fixed number of interviewees can ever be invited, so any shoe-in displaces somebody else who may have been the actual best applicant and as such 'deserved' the job.

A shortlist should be compiled on the basis of paperwork received using objective selection criteria drawn from the person spec in the context of the job description. If being disabled is an essential criterion in the person spec then fine.

That's not to say applicants' paperwork is much use, or that interviews alone work well in discriminating on the basis of ability to do the job (as opposed to ability to be interviewed) but such matters are beside the point.


Sticks.

9,721 posts

281 months

Saturday 28th May 2011
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turbobloke said:
The problem is that only a fixed number of interviewees can ever be invited, so any shoe-in displaces somebody else who may have been the actual best applicant and as such 'deserved' the job.
Is it, why? I'd interview as many or as few as I thought. No one's going to get the job unless they deserve it.

This has been around for years and is a sticking plaster on a problem of discrimination against disabled people but doesn't do much to fix the problem.



Stevenj214

4,941 posts

258 months

Saturday 28th May 2011
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Sticks. said:
Is it, why? I'd interview as many or as few as I thought. No one's going to get the job unless they deserve it.

This has been around for years and is a sticking plaster on a problem of discrimination against disabled people but doesn't do much to fix the problem.
Time?

100 application (not unheard of in the past while). 99 meet essential and desired requirements. 1 disabled candidate only just meets essential requirements.

Why should you interview the disabled candidate over any of the others (assuming you won't interview all 100?)

Tom55

704 posts

238 months

Saturday 28th May 2011
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shauniebabes said:
The employer is happy to interview the candidate, the candidate meets the requirements for the job, other candidates are also interviewed, the best candidate gets the job. The problem is ?
Absolutely, it isnt discrmination, positive or otherwise, its positive action, it isnt in itself unfair, as the final placed person should get it on merit and being the best candidate for the job.

My experience has been that most people I have talked to (and been involved in training in recruitment and selection process) tend to bang on about the problems of employing someone with a disability. Part of the reason for introducing this practice was because those applicants with a disability listed on their application form, used to get weeded out before interview stage,

its a small step in lots of cases, and I agree about the 'sticking plaster' comment though.

Stevenj214

4,941 posts

258 months

Saturday 28th May 2011
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Tom55 said:
Part of the reason for introducing this practice was because those applicants with a disability listed on their application form, used to get weeded out before interview stage
Surely the 'positive action' then would be to not list it on the application form!?

Stevenj214

4,941 posts

258 months

Saturday 28th May 2011
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Don't get me wrong, I'm all for positive action for people who have been historically passed over or under represented in any areas of life but the support should be 'pushing' these people through, not 'pulling them'.

Give advice, support, training, guidance, work experince, confidence building, tutors, mobility aids, or even financial assistance to those people who require it.

Don't be draconian and say you must interview or hire X amount of disabled people, gay people, ethnic minorities or whatever the diversity buzzword of the year is.

Stevenj214

4,941 posts

258 months

Saturday 28th May 2011
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Tom55 said:
Absolutely, it isnt discrmination
However it's glossed over, it is by definition discrimination.

Stevenj214

4,941 posts

258 months

Saturday 28th May 2011
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Another example.

100 applicants for a position where the employer only has time available to interview 10.

10 of those applicants meet the minimum requirements and also happen to be disabled.

The employer must now interview all 10 of these applicants even if Superman was amongst the 90 others.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

247 months

Saturday 28th May 2011
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JustinP1 said:
shauniebabes said:
The employer is happy to interview the candidate, the candidate meets the requirements for the job, other candidates are also interviewed, the best candidate gets the job. The problem is ?
This year's Men's Olympic 100m final is going to be 'unfair' against me.

I mean, it's 'racist', no? I'm going to ask them to chance the rules to make it easier for white guys and just put me in the final. To show you how unfair it is at the moment, I would be the first white finalist for about 30 years!

Fair?

Or is there going to be someone who deserves the spot much more than me who I have just displaced because of the colour of my skin?
I'm sure there’s a black person equally as upset about the results and inequity of the swimming in the Olympics wink