High Speed 2? Get normal services working first.
Discussion
How can anybody waste time and money even thinking about building HS2 when they cannot even manage the most basic elements of the existing train services?
How about they ensure something basic - like mobile phone service on the train from the north down to London. I expect reception is more consistent in outer Mongolia than on the East Coast main line.
How hard can it f
king be to provide mobile phone coverage along a train line FFS!
And these jokers are talking about building a new high speed railway service? it will be way way over budget, delivered late, won't work properly, overpriced when it is eventually finished and the only people who will benefit will be the management teams of the contractors.
I despair at just how st things are in the UK.
How about they ensure something basic - like mobile phone service on the train from the north down to London. I expect reception is more consistent in outer Mongolia than on the East Coast main line.
How hard can it f
king be to provide mobile phone coverage along a train line FFS!And these jokers are talking about building a new high speed railway service? it will be way way over budget, delivered late, won't work properly, overpriced when it is eventually finished and the only people who will benefit will be the management teams of the contractors.
I despair at just how s
t things are in the UK. Seems like an odd argument to me, a bit like saying don't build the M1 because I don't get a good mobile signal on the A1. The country in the world with the best train service is undoubtedly Japan, where they insist you turn your phone off and chuck people off at the next stop if they make a call! 
thinfourth2 said:
johnfm said:
How hard can it fking be to provide mobile phone coverage along a train line FFS!
last night i couldn't get a signal in the supermarket who should i address my complaint to.king be to provide mobile phone coverage along a train line FFS!The supermarket
Ford because i drove there in a Ford Focus
Or just maybe the phone company
HTH
thinfourth2 said:
johnfm said:
How hard can it fking be to provide mobile phone coverage along a train line FFS!
last night i couldn't get a signal in the supermarket who should i address my complaint to.king be to provide mobile phone coverage along a train line FFS!The supermarket
Ford because i drove there in a Ford Focus
Or just maybe the phone company
HS1 has proven to be a massive improvement over the old lines*, perhaps building an all new setup is easier and more likely to succeed than trying to fix the old one using overnight and over weekend development works?
* to the extent that people drive a long way past their local stations and pay more to use it instead of the existing lines
* to the extent that people drive a long way past their local stations and pay more to use it instead of the existing lines
Some of you guys (Bing excepted) are missing th epoint.
Yes, I know there are high voltage cables and the train is moving.
Yes, I know the train company aren't in the business of mobile telephony.
But, where is the joined up thinking?
A large number of people commuting to London are doing so for business. On a 2.5 hr hour journey, a lot of business could be done on phone and email. But it is a bit difficult when there is poor signal service in the middle of the 6th biggest economy in the world.
As I said, how hard can it be for them to get this right - and by 'them' I mean a group of people to who we pay shed loads in train fares, mobile rental, data package charges etc.
Clearly, it is all too much to ask and too much for the UK to deliver. Hence my concerns for HS2.
Yes, I know there are high voltage cables and the train is moving.
Yes, I know the train company aren't in the business of mobile telephony.
But, where is the joined up thinking?
A large number of people commuting to London are doing so for business. On a 2.5 hr hour journey, a lot of business could be done on phone and email. But it is a bit difficult when there is poor signal service in the middle of the 6th biggest economy in the world.
As I said, how hard can it be for them to get this right - and by 'them' I mean a group of people to who we pay shed loads in train fares, mobile rental, data package charges etc.
Clearly, it is all too much to ask and too much for the UK to deliver. Hence my concerns for HS2.
You do realise there's a difference between an operator (e.g. Virgin, First Capital, Arriva, East Coast, etc.) and an infrastructure owner (Network Rail, HS1, HS2, etc.)?
HS2 has no control over what the train operator does or does not provide on their rolling stock.
This is analogous to complaining to the Highways Agency when the bluetooth in your car isn't working!
HS2 has no control over what the train operator does or does not provide on their rolling stock.
This is analogous to complaining to the Highways Agency when the bluetooth in your car isn't working!
ExChrispy Porker said:
I'd just read a book and relax
It's annoying having to listen to other peoples phone conversations on a train ( or any where else for that matter)
Buy a blocker for about £30 We booked quiet carriage from York- london one woman insisted on using her mobile all the way (or should I say tried to use ) It's annoying having to listen to other peoples phone conversations on a train ( or any where else for that matter)
johnfm said:
How about they ensure something basic - like mobile phone service on the train from the north down to London. I expect reception is more consistent in outer Mongolia than on the East Coast main line.
How hard can it fking be to provide mobile phone coverage along a train line FFS!
How hard can it f
king be to provide mobile phone coverage along a train line FFS! 
The basics - a mobile phone service on a train......
I remember the days when, if a train was stopped at a signal, the driver had to get out and walk to the phone on the signal post to find out what was going on.
I must be getting old ......
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