Teachers to Strike.
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"Thousands of teachers have backed a programme of widespread strikes in England and Wales over changes to their pensions.
Members of the National Union of Teachers and the Associations of Teachers and Lecturers are expected to walk out on 30 June.
The unions say the pensions changes will leave them working longer, paying more and getting less when they retire.
The government insists any changes will be fair and affordable to the nation."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-13761147
Lazy good for nothing teacher girlfriend is b
hing about the strike being called for a Thursday not a Friday or Monday.
Members of the National Union of Teachers and the Associations of Teachers and Lecturers are expected to walk out on 30 June.
The unions say the pensions changes will leave them working longer, paying more and getting less when they retire.
The government insists any changes will be fair and affordable to the nation."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-13761147
Lazy good for nothing teacher girlfriend is b
hing about the strike being called for a Thursday not a Friday or Monday.Well, it appears to have started, as a lot of people here on NP&E warned.
In extremis, it could go two ways; govt capitualtion (which would ultimately incur the ire of the bond markets), or a very hard-line approach which will make Maggie's union-busting days seem tame.
It will not end well. When will these idiots learn? There is no money, we've spent it and the creditors are circling outside the door wanting to know when we'll pay it back.
In extremis, it could go two ways; govt capitualtion (which would ultimately incur the ire of the bond markets), or a very hard-line approach which will make Maggie's union-busting days seem tame.
It will not end well. When will these idiots learn? There is no money, we've spent it and the creditors are circling outside the door wanting to know when we'll pay it back.
I was speaking to a couple of friends who are both teachers the other day about this and asked if they would be supporting the strikes. They both said they probably would because the union was advising it but when I then tried to open a discussion about why they thought the changes were unfair, neither of them had a clue about any of the details. Says it all really. 

lauda said:
I was speaking to a couple of friends who are both teachers...tried to open a discussion about why they thought the changes were unfair, neither of them had a clue about any of the details. Says it all really. 
Yep, no wonder kids leaving school have worse basic reading, writing and arithmetic skills than twenty years ago. To think I beleived most of my teachers to be idiots.
Digga said:
lauda said:
I was speaking to a couple of friends who are both teachers...tried to open a discussion about why they thought the changes were unfair, neither of them had a clue about any of the details. Says it all really. 
Yep, no wonder kids leaving school have worse basic reading, writing and arithmetic skills than twenty years ago. To think I beleived most of my teachers to be idiots.
chris watton said:
Digga said:
lauda said:
I was speaking to a couple of friends who are both teachers...tried to open a discussion about why they thought the changes were unfair, neither of them had a clue about any of the details. Says it all really. 
Yep, no wonder kids leaving school have worse basic reading, writing and arithmetic skills than twenty years ago. To think I beleived most of my teachers to be idiots.
tting me, right?I'll allow artistic licence in films of a historic nature, up to a point. Shaving Ryan's Privates wasn;t too annoyingly Hollywoodised, but that film was utter drivel, to the point of being annoying.
I'm sure there still are excellent, inspiring, amazing teachers out there. They must feel like the staffroom is like the Star Wars bar - the freaks are the majority and they are the 'outsiders'.
Digga said:
You're s
tting me, right?
I'll allow artistic licence in films of a historic nature, up to a point. Shaving Ryan's Privates wasn;t too annoyingly Hollywoodised, but that film was utter drivel, to the point of being annoying.
I'm sure there still are excellent, inspiring, amazing teachers out there. They must feel like the staffroom is like the Star Wars bar - the freaks are the majority and they are the 'outsiders'.
Absolutely true - not kidding. Even I thought he was joking when he told me!
tting me, right?I'll allow artistic licence in films of a historic nature, up to a point. Shaving Ryan's Privates wasn;t too annoyingly Hollywoodised, but that film was utter drivel, to the point of being annoying.
I'm sure there still are excellent, inspiring, amazing teachers out there. They must feel like the staffroom is like the Star Wars bar - the freaks are the majority and they are the 'outsiders'.
chris watton said:
Digga said:
lauda said:
I was speaking to a couple of friends who are both teachers...tried to open a discussion about why they thought the changes were unfair, neither of them had a clue about any of the details. Says it all really. 
Yep, no wonder kids leaving school have worse basic reading, writing and arithmetic skills than twenty years ago. To think I beleived most of my teachers to be idiots.

Tsippy said:
chris watton said:
Digga said:
lauda said:
I was speaking to a couple of friends who are both teachers...tried to open a discussion about why they thought the changes were unfair, neither of them had a clue about any of the details. Says it all really. 
Yep, no wonder kids leaving school have worse basic reading, writing and arithmetic skills than twenty years ago. To think I beleived most of my teachers to be idiots.

Why worry about e-numbers when this level of drivel is served up on a regular basis.
turbobloke said:
Tsippy said:
chris watton said:
Digga said:
lauda said:
I was speaking to a couple of friends who are both teachers...tried to open a discussion about why they thought the changes were unfair, neither of them had a clue about any of the details. Says it all really. 
Yep, no wonder kids leaving school have worse basic reading, writing and arithmetic skills than twenty years ago. To think I beleived most of my teachers to be idiots.

Why worry about e-numbers when this level of drivel is served up on a regular basis.

lauda said:
I was speaking to a couple of friends who are both teachers the other day about this and asked if they would be supporting the strikes. They both said they probably would because the union was advising it but when I then tried to open a discussion about why they thought the changes were unfair, neither of them had a clue about any of the details. Says it all really. 
EXACTLY the same experience when I questioned a couple of my wife's teacher mates at a barbecue on the weekend. Striking but no clue at all why. In fact, one of the women said, and I quote, "it'll be nice to have a day off though".
My wife isn't striking as she belongs to the NASUWT and doesn't believe in the idea anyway.
What do we want .....
Longer Holidays
when do we want them....NOW!
Where were the Teachers Unions when the Preivate Sector pensions were getting tax raids and haircuts in value?
Oh yeah, they were voting in droves for Blair and Brown who destroyed them.
Can't see too many people supporting some of the same medicine for the PS workers
Longer Holidays
when do we want them....NOW!
Where were the Teachers Unions when the Preivate Sector pensions were getting tax raids and haircuts in value?
Oh yeah, they were voting in droves for Blair and Brown who destroyed them.
Can't see too many people supporting some of the same medicine for the PS workers
Before we all get carried away on generic useless lefty teacher-bashing, I would point to the figures in that article which indicate quite clearly that most teachers do not support a strike. 92% of a 40% turnout, 83% of a 35% turnout and only two out of the three main teaching unions does not add up to anything like a majority.
Anyway, don't mind me. As you were...
Anyway, don't mind me. As you were...
Ten Ninety said:
Before we all get carried away on generic useless lefty teacher-bashing, I would point to the figures in that article which indicate quite clearly that most teachers do not support a strike. 92% of a 40% turnout, 83% of a 35% turnout and only two out of the three main teaching unions does not add up to anything like a majority.
Anyway, don't mind me. As you were...
Will the silent majority be crossing the picket lines?Anyway, don't mind me. As you were...
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