Degree in flower arranging??? WTF

[anonymous-user]

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[uk_vette]

FFS.

This is bordering on the pathetic.

How the F. can you, or "should" you get a degree in sticking flowers in a pot of water?

V.

[Hugo a Gogo]

that's nothing


I did a GCSE in Honey Production and Hive Maintenance


















I got a B

[andyroo]

[Johnnytheboy]

When I was applying one of the toytown universities was offering "Home Brewing and Electronic Music".

[elster]

Horse degrees include

• Management
• Studies
• Psychology
• Behaviour & Training

Fashion

• Accessories
• Buying & Retailing
• Design
• Lifestyle Products
• Marketing

Just a small sample, these should be done as Apprenticeships or just a plain college course.

[GKP]

Is floristry not a genuine career then? There's a small marquee based show in Chelsea which seems to think there's money in it.

[Zaxxon]

uk_vette said:

FFS.

This is bordering on the pathetic.

How the F. can you, or "should" you get a degree in sticking flowers in a pot of water?

V.

Yes, that's all it is, chuck a few daisy's in a jar and you've cracked it.

[elster]

GKP said:

Is floristry not a genuine career then? There's a small marquee based show in Chelsea which seems to think there's money in it.

What has career got to do with a uni degree?

You are confusing the 2 issues.

[cal72]

So you can't tell the difference between a bunch of flowers from a petrol station and a bouquet from a florist.
It is not just about flower arranging, they have to learn all the latin names, types of flowers that last longer than others to get a life balance of a bouquet, types of flowers that are more suitable for hayfever sufferers.
My OH is a qualified florists and spent 3yrs doing her degree.
She has done many weddings and funerals that have shown that it is a skilled proffesion.
Just out of curiosity do those that think that this type of degree is just a load of st and do you buy your flowers from any fuel depot?

[elster]

cal72 said:

So you can't tell the difference between a bunch of flowers from a petrol station and a bouquet from a florist.
It is not just about flower arranging, they have to learn all the latin names, types of flowers that last longer than others to get a life balance of a bouquet, types of flowers that are more suitable for hayfever sufferers.
My OH is a qualified florists and spent 3yrs doing her degree.
She has done many weddings and funerals that have shown that it is a skilled profession.
Just out of curiosity do those that think that this type of degree is just a load of st and do you buy your flowers from any fuel depot?

I think it is a pointless degree.

I don't think the training is pointless, but to be performed in a uni? That is the point.

Are you saying she couldn't have learnt this as an apprenticeship or an HNC course?

[Johnnytheboy]

To be fair, we occasionally need to get people at worked trained as florists for commercial clients. It's surprisingly hard to find short courses in floristry that aren't tailored towards people that want to do it as a hobby.

But I can't see any reason why it needs to be done at higher than a further education college level.

[GKP]

So these companies that supply arranged flowers by the lorry load for every bridezilla each Saturday should be able to do their job without any training at all?

I'm going to set up a dentist surgery next week. No, I haven't been to uni, why would I need to? Who's going to be first in my chair? Bring your chequebook.

[pugwash4x4]

cal72 said:

So you can't tell the difference between a bunch of flowers from a petrol station and a bouquet from a florist.
It is not just about flower arranging, they have to learn all the latin names, types of flowers that last longer than others to get a life balance of a bouquet, types of flowers that are more suitable for hayfever sufferers.
My OH is a qualified florists and spent 3yrs doing her degree.
She has done many weddings and funerals that have shown that it is a skilled proffesion.
Just out of curiosity do those that think that this type of degree is just a load of st and do you buy your flowers from any fuel depot?

Do you not think that all of this could be learned "on the job" instead of being paid for by society though a very expensive and ultimately pointless degree?

its not just flower arranging, but there are a huge number of degrees which really aren't suitable for degree status!

[Johnnytheboy]

As above, I wouldn't suggest florists don't need training, but they need a degree as much as a gardener/builder/plumber/etc. does.

[cal72]

elster said:

Are you saying she couldn't have learnt this as an apprenticeship or an HNC course?

It's not useless if it provides a career/income.
However these are totally fking useless.
David Beckham studies – Staffordshire University, UK
Parapsychology – various colleges
BA Honours: Forensic Investigation with Tourism and Leisure Studies
Hairdressing-salon management — University of Derby
Fashion-and-lifestyle products — Southampton Solent University
Watersports science and development — University of Portsmouth
Sports-surfaces management — Glyndwr University
Contemporary circus and physical performance — Bath Spa University
Equestrian psychology — Glyndwr University
Cruise management — University of Plymouth
Surf science and technology — University of Plymouth
Pop-music performance — University of East London
Sexual-health studies — University of Central Lancashire

Now how many can you get a career from this list?

[powerstroke]

cal72 said:

So you can't tell the difference between a bunch of flowers from a petrol station and a bouquet from a florist.
It is not just about flower arranging, they have to learn all the latin names, types of flowers that last longer than others to get a life balance of a bouquet, types of flowers that are more suitable for hayfever sufferers.
My OH is a qualified florists and spent 3yrs doing her degree.
She has done many weddings and funerals that have shown that it is a skilled proffesion.
Just out of curiosity do those that think that this type of degree is just a load of st and do you buy your flowers from any fuel depot?

sadly yes it is a poitless degree is what is wrong with education and cheapens real degrees,all these technicall hands on skills should be done with aprentiships
on the job working that builds real practical skills .....mind I think most of what's happened in the last few year is more about right on lefty thinking getting everything and everyone redused to the lowest common denominator ....hence giving everone a potty degree and a pat on the head and sending them out into a different world ....

[Snoggledog]

cal72 said:

Watersports science and development — University of Portsmouth

Golden shower science and bladder control?

[elster]

cal72 said:

elster said:

Are you saying she couldn't have learnt this as an apprenticeship or an HNC course?

It's not useless if it provides a career/income.
However these are totally fking useless.
David Beckham studies – Staffordshire University, UK
Parapsychology – various colleges
BA Honours: Forensic Investigation with Tourism and Leisure Studies
Hairdressing-salon management — University of Derby
Fashion-and-lifestyle products — Southampton Solent University
Watersports science and development — University of Portsmouth
Sports-surfaces management — Glyndwr University
Contemporary circus and physical performance — Bath Spa University
Equestrian psychology — Glyndwr University
Cruise management — University of Plymouth
Surf science and technology — University of Plymouth
Pop-music performance — University of East London
Sexual-health studies — University of Central Lancashire

Now how many can you get a career from this list?

Never said it was useless qualification, just pointless to be done in a university rather than a college.

Not everything should be a degree.

The above degree courses are not only examples of things that shouldn't be in a university, but also ones that shouldn't have a formal qualification above an NVQ level 1. Some shouldn't exist.

[otolith]

Whether a course is vocational or not is irrelevant to whether it should be pursued at degree level. The question is simply one of intellectual rigour. I think you probably could formulate a properly rigourous degree level course in flower arranging, but it would end up looking like a joint honours in Art History and Botany, and would be pretty bloody useless to anyone who actually wanted to make a living as a florist.