Best Quote since the Rioting began
Best Quote since the Rioting began
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stuart-b

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3,651 posts

256 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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guardian said:
There has been a lot of debate – particularly in the comments section of our live blogs and others – about whether the police should be given water cannons to deal with the rioters, and whether the army should be called in. The home secretary, Theresa May, has just pretty much ruled on water cannon, in an interview on Sky News.

The way we police in Britain is not with water cannon. The way we police in Britain is on the streets and with the communities.
At least if the police had water cannons they could have saved the MX-5!

In all seriousness, why not?

trashbat

6,314 posts

183 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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The notional reason the riots started is because of a police shooting - it's not the root cause, but it's supposedly the trigger. Going in more heavily with water cannon and the like just reinforces that perceived provocation, and maybe even loses support from the public who currently have little empathy or support for the rioters.

crankedup

25,764 posts

273 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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Only use water cannon if the protest is against Government Policy, I refer to the Poll Tax riots and the use of the water cannon during those riots in London.

98elise

32,769 posts

191 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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stuart-b said:
At least if the police had water cannons they could have saved the MX-5!

In all seriousness, why not?
Because when a policeman pushes someone over, and he later dies, the media will not rest until he faces criminal charges (Ian Tomlinson)

Unfortunately our police have no teeth at all, and our politicians are full of hot air, only concerned what the media will think.


trashbat

6,314 posts

183 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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In fact, if you remember the Paris riots of 2005, the provocation was Sarkozy (not President at that point) saying that they should clean the streets with a Karcher pressure washer. Probably not an ideal gesture.

Mr Dave

3,233 posts

225 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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Why not?

Because she is wishy washy and has probably never been in a riot. Stupid bint. Water cannons with dye and the video recording and command and control facilities they offer are very useful in a riot.

pc.iow

1,879 posts

233 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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Bloke being interviewed on Sky News. "Just go home"idea

Mst007

472 posts

252 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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"The safest place to take refuge if you get caught up in a riot is to head straight for the nearest job centre, they`ll never go in there"

Anonymous

oOTomOo

594 posts

221 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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I heard a fella on the BBC describe it as;

"It's just late night aggressive shopping, without paying"

Ari

19,826 posts

245 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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I smiled at a comment from a friend on Facebook:

"So that's a cautious thumbs up for The Big Society".

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

282 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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Mst007 said:
"The safest place to take refuge if you get caught up in a riot is to head straight for the nearest job centre, they`ll never go in there"

Anonymous
or a book shop.


In fact, if JD Sports hung a WH Smiths sign over their shutters they'd still have all their gear.

munky

5,328 posts

278 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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Rioting spread to Peckham last night, and caused millions of pounds worth of improvements.

stuttgartmetal

8,164 posts

246 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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Sky News well hyped presenter in Clapham steps into a smashed up Boots, looks around and comment....

"Their are drugs spread on the floor!"

Leans down, and picks up a box and reads out

" Immodium"......

Willie Dee

1,559 posts

238 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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"There is nothing more dangerous than to build a society, with a large segment of people in that society, who feel that they have no stake in it; who feel that they have nothing to lose. People who have a stake in their society, protect that society, but when they don't have it, they unconsciously want to destroy it."

- Martin Luther King Jr.


Here's a sad truth, expressed by a Londoner when asked by a television reporter:

"Is rioting the correct way to express your discontent?"

"Yes," said the young man. "You wouldn't be talking to me now if we didn't riot, would you?"

The TV reporter from Britain's ITV had no response. So the young man pressed his advantage. "Two months ago we marched to Scotland Yard, more than 2,000 of us, all blacks, and it was peaceful and calm and you know what? Not a word in the press. Last night a bit of rioting and looting and look around you."

AJS-

15,366 posts

266 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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98elise said:
Because when a policeman pushes someone over, and he later dies, the media will not rest until he faces criminal charges (Ian Tomlinson)

Unfortunately our police have no teeth at all, and our politicians are full of hot air, only concerned what the media will think.
I think that is something that gets people's backs up though. That policeman went and barged over Ian Thomlinson, who looked on the video like a slightly daft old bloke, or at very worst an irritating attention we. But when faced with some really violent and nasty people who mean to cause the police harm, they seem a lot more circumspect about responding harshly.

It's a rock and a hard place, of course and no balance will please everyone. But I would like to see the police in situations like this, and indeed in society in general, go a bit easier on the eccentric and the awkward, and a bit harsher on those who really do fk things up.

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

216 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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guardian said:
The way we police in Britain is on the streets and with the communities.
In the current context, to paraphrase the german who said it first, 'Every time I hear the word 'community', I reach for my revolver'.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

291 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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crankedup said:
Only use water cannon if the protest is against Government Policy, I refer to the Poll Tax riots and the use of the water cannon during those riots in London.
Are you sure about that?

DPX

1,027 posts

230 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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ebay site could get overload with a huge amount of buy it now tele's

poo at Paul's

14,620 posts

205 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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Willie Dee said:
"So the young man pressed his advantage. "Two months ago we marched to Scotland Yard, more than 2,000 of us, all blacks, and it was peaceful and calm and you know what? "
fking Kiwi s.

John_S4x4

1,364 posts

287 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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From an American cop... That's the problem with British policeman, they shout "STOP! If you don't stop, I shall say STOP again". We American cops say "STOP or I'l shoot!"