Fusion power: is it getting any closer?
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Not sure, but I heard they are building a fusion demonstrator plant in the south of france. The ITER project.
Just google ITER
Its a Tokamak reactor.... Like the one at JET in oxford, research at which has influenced the desing of the ITER reactor.
They are hoping, and I say hoping, to achieve 500MW power output for only 50MW power input. I guess the 50MW is what they need to sustain the magnetic fields in the toroid.
Just google ITER
Its a Tokamak reactor.... Like the one at JET in oxford, research at which has influenced the desing of the ITER reactor.
They are hoping, and I say hoping, to achieve 500MW power output for only 50MW power input. I guess the 50MW is what they need to sustain the magnetic fields in the toroid.
thinfourth2 said:
Enviormentalists want it stopped because it causes global not living in a mud hut naked and chanting
article said:
Fusion energy also has its environmental detractors. When the ITER project was announced in 2005, Greenpeace said it "deplored" the project, arguing that the money could be better spent building offshore wind turbines. "Advocates of fusion research predict that the first commercial fusion electricity might be delivered in 50-80 years from now," said Jan Vande Putte, Greenpeace International's nuclear campaigner. "But most likely, it will lead to a dead end, as the technical barriers to be overcome are enormous."
These folk would never have come down from the trees.Blib said:
article said:
Fusion energy also has its environmental detractors. When the ITER project was announced in 2005, Greenpeace said it "deplored" the project, arguing that the money could be better spent building offshore wind turbines. "Advocates of fusion research predict that the first commercial fusion electricity might be delivered in 50-80 years from now," said Jan Vande Putte, Greenpeace International's nuclear campaigner. "But most likely, it will lead to a dead end, as the technical barriers to be overcome are enormous."
These folk would never have come down from the trees.This comment made me laugh:
Edit: FFS it has been recommended 153 times.
moron said:
Why not build the renewable energy plants (solar, wind, wave) first and then work on fusion so there's less time pressure? It all just sounds like scientists trying to justify their own existence.
And once fusion is working properly how many days will it be before the Americans weaponise it?
And once fusion is working properly how many days will it be before the Americans weaponise it?
Edit: FFS it has been recommended 153 times.
tank slapper said:
This comment made me laugh:
Edit: FFS it has been recommended 153 times.
moron said:
Why not build the renewable energy plants (solar, wind, wave) first and then work on fusion so there's less time pressure? It all just sounds like scientists trying to justify their own existence.
And once fusion is working properly how many days will it be before the Americans weaponise it?
And once fusion is working properly how many days will it be before the Americans weaponise it?
Edit: FFS it has been recommended 153 times.
Minus almost 60 years (1952 if memory serves)
There is one bloke on there with some common sense;
Bloke on Komment Macht Frie said:
When the ITER project was announced in 2005, Greenpeace said it "deplored" the project, arguing that the money could be better spent building offshore wind turbines. "Advocates of fusion research predict that the first commercial fusion electricity might be delivered in 50-80 years from now," said Jan Vande Putte, Greenpeace International's nuclear campaigner. "But most likely, it will lead to a dead end, as the technical barriers to be overcome are enormous."
Good to see the loom-wreckers have been allowed their usual screech.
No Fission, No Fusion, No Genetic Modification, no this, no that.
Just windmills, and a dearth of ambition;
When the first ever locomotive was built, people like Greenpeace predicted that it would kill cattle as it passed and that any human that traveled at 40mph would die or go mad from the speed.
That all happened too didn't it?
It's also been recommended 624 times, maybe it's too intelligently written for the greenys to understand, hence it didn't get moderated. Good to see the loom-wreckers have been allowed their usual screech.
No Fission, No Fusion, No Genetic Modification, no this, no that.
Just windmills, and a dearth of ambition;
When the first ever locomotive was built, people like Greenpeace predicted that it would kill cattle as it passed and that any human that traveled at 40mph would die or go mad from the speed.
That all happened too didn't it?
Mr E said:
Minus almost 60 years (1952 if memory serves)
I like that they think fusion is something brand new. The problem with fusion was never making it happen... It was controlling the end result to make something other than a faffan massive explosion that eviscerated everything
Otispunkmeyer said:
Mr E said:
Minus almost 60 years (1952 if memory serves)
I like that they think fusion is something brand new. The problem with fusion was never making it happen... It was controlling the end result to make something other than a faffan massive explosion that eviscerated everything
There is an old joke in the Physics community that Fusion power is about 50 years away. That has certainly been true for the last 30 years in my experience.
Sonic said:
thinfourth2 said:
Enviormentalists want it stopped because it causes global not living in a mud hut naked and chanting
Given the comments on the bottom of that article... i feel you're right 
You will find some greens demanding it isn't built
Frankeh said:
Los Alamos has a great big fusion maker that basically destroys its self each time it's run.
They were going on the theory that if you can replace the parts broken quickly and cheaply then it's not that big a deal.. I think it's a kinda s
t philosophy.
The z-pinch? As far as I know, like the laser fusion stuff, it's a thinly veiled weapons testing program. With the test ban treaty they need some way of validating the simulations of the secondary stage in H-bombs.They were going on the theory that if you can replace the parts broken quickly and cheaply then it's not that big a deal.. I think it's a kinda s
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