Signs of a cold winter ahead?
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Happy82

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199 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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My mom mentioned this morning that the trees and bushes are full of ripe berries at the moment (primarily holly bushes), and that this is often a sign of a severe winter ahead..... how true is this ? I've had a google and lots of people seem to use nature as a way of forecasting the weather, can't be much worse than the weathergirls can they ? laugh

But I was just wondering if any of these natural 'signs of weather' have any truth to them?

Shaw Tarse

31,901 posts

233 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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I wouldn't bet against nature knowing best!

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

234 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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I will be waiting for the Met office prediction and preparing for the exact opposite


Happy82

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199 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
I will be waiting for the Met office prediction and preparing for the exact opposite
But what about their predictions for the lovely bbq summers we've had for the past 5years and the lack of any snow or need for heating in the winter ? laugh

Turbodiesel1690

1,958 posts

200 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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Theres truth in the Holly bush theory, last year ours was absolutely laden with berries - cue -15 temps and the heaviest snowfall in living memory

Pothole

34,367 posts

312 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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Your what now?

Skodaku

1,805 posts

249 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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They're plants; they respond to current and recent past weather conditions, not future ones.

Lots of old weather sayings do have a basis in fact and this one is generally taken to mean that the coming winter will be a harsh environment in comparison to the current one...............which provided all the fruit/berries.

WhoseGeneration

4,090 posts

237 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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Sorry, we now have "models" which can accurately predict all the weather and "climate", into infinity.
They're the truth.

Oakey

27,984 posts

246 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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which is why we're freezing our arse off in august. I can't believe how cold these last few days have been.

Zad

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266 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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It has been a cool and very dry summer, hence the early berries and the leaves starting to turn on some trees already. I wouldn't be surprised if we had the first proper frost before September is out. I'm sure the met office would disagree, but it feels like we are still in the same weather pattern that gave us the horrendous weather around Christmas.

mondeoman

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296 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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Conkers.

Thats all I've got to say on the matter... smile

ShredderXLE

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189 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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[quote=Zad]It has been a cool and very dry summer[quote]


Where has this very dry summer been?

Even in the south of England its rained on almost every day at some point throughout August and quite a lot of July as well.

Happy82

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199 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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mondeoman said:
Conkers.

Thats all I've got to say on the matter... smile
I've noticed that they've fallen from the trees early too, I don't seem to remember them around early August? confused

fatboy b

9,665 posts

246 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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"mom" ?!?

Are the sceptics really influencing us that much?

rs1952

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289 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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Oakey said:
which is why we're freezing our arse off in august. I can't believe how cold these last few days have been.
Our local BBC weather forecaster looked at the figures tonight and told us that it has been the coldest summer since 1993.

Now, during the early 2000s when we were having warmer than usual summers, we were all being told that this was clear conclusive proof of global warming.

I'm just waiting to hear how this summer (and the last one and the one before that) that has been colder than average is also clear conclusive proof of global warming ..... rolleyes

Sonic

4,008 posts

237 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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Oakey said:
which is why we're freezing our arse off in august. I can't believe how cold these last few days have been.
I'm not the only one who's had the heating on then!

Jasandjules

72,648 posts

259 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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Sign of a Cold Winter? Little/No Solar Activity for a while now.........

The grapes we have are not yet ripe though.. But then last year it was the end of September before they got going...

ewenm

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275 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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Zad

13,022 posts

266 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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ShredderXLE said:
Where has this very dry summer been?

Even in the south of England its rained on almost every day at some point throughout August and quite a lot of July as well.
Here in sunny Yorkshire, we had hardly any rain from April until August, and even then the only rain has been in the last 2 weeks or so.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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Ask me in the Spring....

Remember all the stupid clowns who after a few warm weeks back in April/May were predicting a "long hot summer"?