Bernard Hogan-Howe is the new Met Police Cheif
Discussion
Dirty Frank said:
I hear this guy isnt the police officers choice as he is a politician more than a policeman. Anyone know if he is going to do good?
Doh, I put chief and he is commissioner!
Worse than that, you put Cheif. Doh, I put chief and he is commissioner!
Will he be any good? No.
Come back in 12 months to see if I'm right.
His name will be made fun of too!
One would assume that he has been picked due to his criticism of the more than 20% cut in police funding.
His attitude in Merseyside was to put more civvies in administrative staff positions. With the cutbacks these, of course, will be the first to go so he's leaving Merseyside just about at the right time.
I've been told he is 'objectionable' to every rank regardless of performance. I'm not sure what this means but it would appear that negotiation is not his strong point. I've always found that it is the quiet bosses one should be careful of.
He's political, sucking up to the government over recent years.
The government probably feels that with the head of the largest force acquiescing to their mantra they will have an easy time. It is a bit like getting Ferrari onside in F1. Where the red cars go everyone else has to follow. However, the Mets currently are favoured on budget and Commissioners have habitually been nice to the other CCs back in third class.
We’ve had CCs brought in before with promises of Hammering the Met into shape but they’ve never delivered. The best have been those who have worked with ACs to deliver, rather than chase for no particular reason. The Met is different to other forces and is best seen as four or five (maybe even more) forces each under its own commissioner with a single chap to be their voice.
Other commissioners have had problems with the ACs under them forming a group against them.
He probably sees himself as HMIC or something similar within a few years although probably not before the end of the current government so he’d better hope for no change at the next election.
He says the right things at time, seeming to support his staff, although often it can be judicious use of words as he has supported the government stance. Menezes anyone.
Intellectually he’s evidently up there at the top.
I would have preferred Tim Godwin, a real no-nonsense man who praises where it is due and who goes for substance over image. He says what he thinks. Not the sort of traits that governments like.
So we have, as we often have had in the past, a political appointee. He and Boris probably won’t get on although one wonders if this will matter to Howe. Boris has got his way over the last two by them accepting his authority. It might well be tested with this new bloke.
Whether this will help those in London is another matter.
There’s a difficult time coming for the Mets. If he lords it over the also-rans, the lesser commissioners and CCs, they might be less inclined to support public order problems in the Met to their own costs. A 20% cut in funding means that there will be much more than a 20% cut in mutual aid, especially if Howe doesn’t support their concerns.
There will be some major reorganisation of the forces in either this or the next government. They will want someone to be in charge of it and I have no doubt Howe would see himself as the natural choice if only he could do a good job in the Mets.
His attitude in Merseyside was to put more civvies in administrative staff positions. With the cutbacks these, of course, will be the first to go so he's leaving Merseyside just about at the right time.
I've been told he is 'objectionable' to every rank regardless of performance. I'm not sure what this means but it would appear that negotiation is not his strong point. I've always found that it is the quiet bosses one should be careful of.
He's political, sucking up to the government over recent years.
The government probably feels that with the head of the largest force acquiescing to their mantra they will have an easy time. It is a bit like getting Ferrari onside in F1. Where the red cars go everyone else has to follow. However, the Mets currently are favoured on budget and Commissioners have habitually been nice to the other CCs back in third class.
We’ve had CCs brought in before with promises of Hammering the Met into shape but they’ve never delivered. The best have been those who have worked with ACs to deliver, rather than chase for no particular reason. The Met is different to other forces and is best seen as four or five (maybe even more) forces each under its own commissioner with a single chap to be their voice.
Other commissioners have had problems with the ACs under them forming a group against them.
He probably sees himself as HMIC or something similar within a few years although probably not before the end of the current government so he’d better hope for no change at the next election.
He says the right things at time, seeming to support his staff, although often it can be judicious use of words as he has supported the government stance. Menezes anyone.
Intellectually he’s evidently up there at the top.
I would have preferred Tim Godwin, a real no-nonsense man who praises where it is due and who goes for substance over image. He says what he thinks. Not the sort of traits that governments like.
So we have, as we often have had in the past, a political appointee. He and Boris probably won’t get on although one wonders if this will matter to Howe. Boris has got his way over the last two by them accepting his authority. It might well be tested with this new bloke.
Whether this will help those in London is another matter.
There’s a difficult time coming for the Mets. If he lords it over the also-rans, the lesser commissioners and CCs, they might be less inclined to support public order problems in the Met to their own costs. A 20% cut in funding means that there will be much more than a 20% cut in mutual aid, especially if Howe doesn’t support their concerns.
There will be some major reorganisation of the forces in either this or the next government. They will want someone to be in charge of it and I have no doubt Howe would see himself as the natural choice if only he could do a good job in the Mets.
He made a huge difference to Merseyside Police and the county when he was in charge.
However, I think anyone in that job will be looked at as doing a bad job regardless of what they do. It is a thankless task just like being an MP, council leader, local authority CEO or many other such jobs.
However, I think anyone in that job will be looked at as doing a bad job regardless of what they do. It is a thankless task just like being an MP, council leader, local authority CEO or many other such jobs.
craigjm said:
He made a huge difference to Merseyside Police and the county when he was in charge.
However, I think anyone in that job will be looked at as doing a bad job regardless of what they do. It is a thankless task just like being an MP, council leader, local authority CEO or many other such jobs.
MPs and LA CEOs get lovely gold plated pensions, just like CCs. Thankless?However, I think anyone in that job will be looked at as doing a bad job regardless of what they do. It is a thankless task just like being an MP, council leader, local authority CEO or many other such jobs.
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