Would you want to share public transport with this man?
Would you want to share public transport with this man?
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Victor McDade

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4,395 posts

213 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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Yes, yes, I know it's the wail but in this case their reporters should be praised for highlighting this. This is a man who helped plan four attempted bomb attacks two weeks after the 7 July 2005 London bombings. And now he's sharing buses and trains with passengers he once wanted to blow up. To top it off he's not even a British national but we're not allowed to deport him.

Free to ride the Tube again: 21/7 terrorist pictured using public transport in London

carmonk

7,910 posts

218 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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It would be terrible if he stumbled on the pavement and was pulped beneath the wheels of a London bus, or slipped on the platform and fell under a tube train. Hope it doesn't happen, hope not, hope not...

BuzzLightyear

1,426 posts

213 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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Unbelievable!
How come he only got a 9 year sentence?
How the hell is he out in 3?

Might just as well issue invitations to come and bomb us!

More examples of what's wrong with the judicial system and liberal policies.

WeirdNeville

6,050 posts

246 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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To be honest, sharing public transport with anyone in London is an unpleasant enough experience.

It's not so much that he's free to use public transport that annoys me, it's that he's free at all.

Victor McDade

Original Poster:

4,395 posts

213 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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His actual crime:

Guardian said:
Siraj Yassin Abdullah Ali, 32, of New Southgate, north London

The same family had fostered Eritrea-born Ali as Yassin Omar, one of the convicted bombers, and the two formed a close bond.

Ali lived in the flat directly above Omar's eighth-floor bomb factory. He was also a close friend of July 21 ringleader Muktar Said Ibrahim who had a key to the flat and often stayed there.

Ali not only sheltered Ibrahim's head, but also housed other members of the July 21 plot when the fumes in Omar's bomb factory became overwhelming.

The jury found he knew of the deadly plot before July 21 but failed to tell the authorities.

Perhaps the most powerful evidence concerned his alleged role in the clear-up operation at Omar's flat.

Bulging communal bins were found filled with 186 empty bottles of hydrogen peroxide, a key ingredient in the bombs.

Police also found a bottle containing traces of sulphuric acid, light bulbs, rubber gloves and Pakistani banknotes.

There were also personal documents linked to Ibrahim including letters, a National Insurance card and a Co-op bank card.

At Ali's home, police found handwritten documents relating to the construction of the bombs ripped up in his waste paper bin. On one piece of paper were the words "detonator, charge and Allah" in Arabic.

Forensic experts also found Ibrahim's fingerprints on a notepad. On one page was Arabic script titled: "Steps to Martyrdom." Police also found a business card from Pak Cosmetics, in Finsbury Park, the shop where the high-strength hydrogen peroxide was purchased.

Ali told police he had seen Omar's picture in a newspaper, but said he could not believe it was him and did not call the authorities as he was in shock.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/feb/04/terrorism.world2


ralphrj

4,108 posts

222 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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BuzzLightyear said:
How come he only got a 9 year sentence?
He wasn't one of the would-be-bombers but part of a gang that helped them. As a result he was not convicted of attempting to cause an explosion but of assisting an offender and of failing to disclose information about an act of terrorism.

BuzzLightyear said:
How the hell is he out in 3?
His time spent on remand would have been taken off his sentence. He was arrested and held on remand only a few days after the attempted bombing but not convicted until February 2008 some 2.5 years later. Therefore, he would have served half of his sentence by February 2010 and been given parole some time after that.


BuzzLightyear

1,426 posts

213 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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Is that a reason or an excuse?

Esseesse

9,027 posts

239 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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What a . If this were France, this wouldn't be allowed to happen!

rand hobart

64 posts

187 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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BuzzLightyear said:
Is that a reason or an excuse?
Just a fact.

IMHO You should serve your full sentence and If you were well behaved, then be released. Any bad behaviour should mean time added.
But then, that would cost money, something we now no longer have.

Y282

20,566 posts

203 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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face noted.

if i ever see that get on the same transport as me he'll be getting thrown straight fking off again.

WeirdNeville

6,050 posts

246 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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rand hobart said:
BuzzLightyear said:
Is that a reason or an excuse?
Just a fact.
IMHO You should serve your full sentence and If you were well behaved, then be released. Any bad behaviour should mean time added.
But then, that would cost money, something we now no longer have.
Cheaper than an investigation into terrorism though.

FWIW, I agree. He has served his sentence. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Sentencing, early release, etc in this country can be a joke sometimes.

MR Kirbyz

561 posts

190 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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[bad humour mode] I thought Nani could afford a car why is he on public transport? [bad humour mode]


carmonk

7,910 posts

218 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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WeirdNeville said:
rand hobart said:
BuzzLightyear said:
Is that a reason or an excuse?
Just a fact.
IMHO You should serve your full sentence and If you were well behaved, then be released. Any bad behaviour should mean time added.
But then, that would cost money, something we now no longer have.
Cheaper than an investigation into terrorism though.

FWIW, I agree. He has served his sentence. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Sentencing, early release, etc in this country can be a joke sometimes.
It's possible to hate two or more things at once, however (I personally am an expert in that area, hating literally dozens of things at any one time).

Happy82

15,078 posts

200 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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Now his face is all over one of the best selling national papers, I doubt he'll be alive for much longer once he is spotted by certain folk. Here's hoping he suffers a painful demise beer

FeatherZ

2,422 posts

227 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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MR Kirbyz][bad humour mode said:
I thought Nani could afford a car why is he on public transport? [bad humour mode]
Spitting image bomb old trafford he would walk straight in haha.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

235 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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Well if I had to use public transport at least sitting next to a sucide bomber on a monday morning is better then spending the rest of the week on the bus.

Puggit

49,822 posts

279 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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Can't we just chuck him on a plane home in the middle of the night - ffs...

BuzzLightyear

1,426 posts

213 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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I wonder what would happen to a European committing similar atrocities in Eritrea?


freecar

4,249 posts

218 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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Puggit said:
Can't we just chuck him on a plane home in the middle of the night - ffs...
Can he not just "disappear" in the night? I'm sure we have some "spooky" types about that could do the nation a quick favour!

vescaegg

30,482 posts

198 months

Sunday 25th September 2011
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freecar said:
Can he not just "disappear" in the night? I'm sure we have some "spooky" types about that could do the nation a quick favour!
hehe 'Spooky' Types