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Puggit

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49,822 posts

279 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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UK 'Is Worst Place To Live In Europe'

http://news.sky.com/home/article/16078953

Edited by Puggit on Thursday 29th September 08:53

Cupramax

11,007 posts

283 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Linky no worky, but then again I dont need Sky News to tell me Labour have wrecked this country...

Puggit

Original Poster:

49,822 posts

279 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Linky fixedy

turbobloke

117,419 posts

291 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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A survey of actual people and data on quality of life puts UK at the bottom of the pile? Musht be shome mishtake shirley.

Somebody with a pair of rose tinted specs and no idea will be along soon.

BoRED S2upid

21,088 posts

271 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Not the whole of the UK im sure we have some of the nicest parts of Europe to live IMO. Some of Eastern Europe is rough!

Adrian W

15,580 posts

259 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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When do we officially stop blaming the last lot and start blaming the current mob?

turbobloke

117,419 posts

291 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Adrian W said:
When do we officially stop blaming the last lot and start blaming the current mob?
Hang on, Thatcher is still alive.

The last lot are really still in the queue.

Puggit

Original Poster:

49,822 posts

279 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Adrian W said:
When do we officially stop blaming the last lot and start blaming the current mob?
I don't think a year is long enough to ruin a country, even Labour would struggle with that.

muffinmenace

1,100 posts

219 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Seems like a bit a of crap article as the statistics are so vague. Yes the UK is a horrid place, but I'd rather live here than the eastern block or Belgium.

turbobloke

117,419 posts

291 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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muffinmenace said:
Seems like a bit a of crap article as the statistics are so vague. Yes the UK is a horrid place, but I'd rather live here than the eastern block or Belgium.
Deed you just say...Belgium?!


So the only way to get a result for the UK is to lower expectations to basement level.

That's equally damning in its own way.

Jasandjules

72,651 posts

260 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Puggit said:
I don't think a year is long enough to ruin a country, even Labour would struggle with that.
I think you underestimate them........

sharpfocus

13,966 posts

222 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Adrian W said:
When do we officially stop blaming the last lot and start blaming the current mob?
When they stop complaining about making cuts to reduce their deficit and lock up those responsible for the modern day crusades would do me for a start.

anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Stop moaning, Gordon was right, no more boom & bust! There certainly won't be a boom in the UK anytime soon. tt.

toppstuff

13,698 posts

278 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Adrian W said:
When do we officially stop blaming the last lot and start blaming the current mob?
If you really understood the size of the deficit you would not say that.

The UK has a simply massive overdraft. We are paying more than £120m in interest every single day.

Growth has stalled. So paying the debt down, let alone the interest payment, is kind of hard.

Labour's spending is going to hang around this country like a weight around our neck for an entire generation. Children born now could well be in their late teens before we start to get anywhere in terms of paying it off.

It is not about bankers - that is just politicians trying to lay off the blame.

It is worth remembering that the banks were simply trading the debt that government had already put into the system as a deliberate policy to be popular. Sure, the debt went bad and the banks lost a fortune, but to blame them alone is to ignore the true picture.

Other countries did the same. But the UK were up to their necks in it more than most, and we squandered what could have been a pretty healthy economy. And the legacy that will last a generation is BECAUSE OF GORDON BROWN AS CHANCELLOR AND PM AND THE ENTIRE LABOUR PARTY.

I will never, ever forgive them until they say sorry and every member of the last Government has retired from politics.



Frankeh

12,558 posts

216 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Adrian W said:
When do we officially stop blaming the last lot and start blaming the current mob?
Considering that Labour fked us slowly over the course of 12 years to get us to this point, I'd say a while yet.

BuzzLightyear

1,426 posts

213 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Frankeh said:
Considering that Labour fked us slowly over the course of 12 years to get us to this point, I'd say a while yet.
Absolutely right! AW, heed the wise words of Frankeh!

It just amazes me that there still exist supporters for Labour after what they did to this country and Gordon Brown is personally responsible for a good 75% of that, IMO. Now he's been completely side-lined, I hope he's got lots of time to reflect on the way he utterly cobbled this country and its economy as well as his own career.

Btw, it struck me the other day how ste Labour are at picking leaders, going from Tony to Gordon to this complete knobjockey, Ed "more cheese, Grommit" Milliband! It would be funny if it weren't so tragic.

anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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toppstuff said:
Labour's spending is going to hang around this country like a weight around our neck for an entire generation. Children born now could well be in their late teens before we start to get anywhere in terms of paying it off.
Mark my words, at this point they will be voted back in.

Adrian W

15,580 posts

259 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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toppstuff said:
If you really understood the size of the deficit you would not say that.

The UK has a simply massive overdraft. We are paying more than £120m in interest every single day.

Growth has stalled. So paying the debt down, let alone the interest payment, is kind of hard.

Labour's spending is going to hang around this country like a weight around our neck for an entire generation. Children born now could well be in their late teens before we start to get anywhere in terms of paying it off.

It is not about bankers - that is just politicians trying to lay off the blame.

It is worth remembering that the banks were simply trading the debt that government had already put into the system as a deliberate policy to be popular. Sure, the debt went bad and the banks lost a fortune, but to blame them alone is to ignore the true picture.

Other countries did the same. But the UK were up to their necks in it more than most, and we squandered what could have been a pretty healthy economy. And the legacy that will last a generation is BECAUSE OF GORDON BROWN AS CHANCELLOR AND PM AND THE ENTIRE LABOUR PARTY.

I will never, ever forgive them until they say sorry and every member of the last Government has retired from politics.
I do understand the size of the debt and our inability to actually pay it off, something like a huge credit card balance and paying the minimum payment every month, so the outstanding balance just grows.

What other governments (Germany and France) did was pump money into manufacturing, so that their economy wasn't based on money for nothing, they have goods to make and sell. The UK hasn't learnt a thing and will end up at the bottom of the heap.

Labour assumed the wheels would never fall off (idiots) unfortunately they did!

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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BuzzLightyear said:
Absolutely right! AW, heed the wise words of Frankeh!

It just amazes me that there still exist supporters for Labour after what they did to this country and Gordon Brown is personally responsible for a good 75% of that, IMO. Now he's been completely side-lined, I hope he's got lots of time to reflect on the way he utterly cobbled this country and its economy as well as his own career.

Btw, it struck me the other day how ste Labour are at picking leaders, going from Tony to Gordon to this complete knobjockey, Ed "more cheese, Grommit" Milliband! It would be funny if it weren't so tragic.
But a lot of people saw a rise in there living standards, including those not working. The menial jobs were taken by immigrants, but that didn't matter as those who would have done the jobs saw their benefits go up. Cheap and lax credit gave them big TVs, footy on sky, and laissez-faire policing allowed low scale criminality to pay for the things that their bogus disability claim didn't quite cover.

The working classes (ie those who actually get out of bed) were earning 25k a year, living in a 300k propertaaay, driving matching recession white speedline Audis and taking exotic holidays safe in the knowledge that their propertaay was creating enough value on it's own to clear their debts.

Then the evil bankers came along and destroyed the prosperity and boom created by the economic vision of el Winko and Ed Nutsack. By some cruel twist of the electoral boundaries not being totally rigged to ensure a Fourth Brown Reich for a thousand years, a coalition was formed between the Dib-Lems and the Thatcher Party who have now taken away everyone's shiny things just because they are horrid people, and talk in that funny way people used to do when English was the country's most widely spoken language.

Adrian W

15,580 posts

259 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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BuzzLightyear said:
Frankeh said:
Considering that Labour fked us slowly over the course of 12 years to get us to this point, I'd say a while yet.
Absolutely right! AW, heed the wise words of Frankeh!

It just amazes me that there still exist supporters for Labour after what they did to this country and Gordon Brown is personally responsible for a good 75% of that, IMO. Now he's been completely side-lined, I hope he's got lots of time to reflect on the way he utterly cobbled this country and its economy as well as his own career.

Btw, it struck me the other day how ste Labour are at picking leaders, going from Tony to Gordon to this complete knobjockey, Ed "more cheese, Grommit" Milliband! It would be funny if it weren't so tragic.
Have no doubt I am not a labour supporter, they should all be personally stripped of any assets and put on the benefits system that they created for life, however I don't think the current mob are doing any better.