Cameron and Right to Buy
Discussion
Matt.. said:
I don't think it is. It's a bloody stupid idea though - I have a feeling it has a lot to do with the house price boom. thinfourth2 said:
Its retarded enough to be a Camoron plan
He has three As at A-level, was described as one of the most able students by his tutor at Oxford, and graduated with a first class degree.I wonder, academically or intellectually, if you're in much of a position to look down on him.
i think there sould be a right to buy, but after a long period in a house (ie you've paid years of rent).
As long as the cash is then ringfenced for new social housing then whats the problem. Two people are now housed, where one was before, and someone now owns a house so have some return for their years of paying rent.
Previously the cash wasn't put back into social housing, which was a stupid policy
As long as the cash is then ringfenced for new social housing then whats the problem. Two people are now housed, where one was before, and someone now owns a house so have some return for their years of paying rent.
Previously the cash wasn't put back into social housing, which was a stupid policy
NorthernBoy said:
He has three As at A-level, was described as one of the most able students by his tutor at Oxford, and graduated with a first class degree.
I wonder, academically or intellectually, if you're in much of a position to look down on him.
Strange isnt it? That this man, who you would expect to be very bright, is prepared to squander 140 billion plus on near useless windfarms.I wonder, academically or intellectually, if you're in much of a position to look down on him.
NorthernBoy said:
He has three As at A-level, was described as one of the most able students by his tutor at Oxford, and graduated with a first class degree.
I wonder, academically or intellectually, if you're in much of a position to look down on him.
I saw plenty of people at Dartmouth with first class degrees who didn't have an ounce of common sense, nor a clue about the real world. I wonder, academically or intellectually, if you're in much of a position to look down on him.
Cameron should move in with Brown, they'd get on well together.
Elroy Blue said:
NorthernBoy said:
He has three As at A-level, was described as one of the most able students by his tutor at Oxford, and graduated with a first class degree.
I wonder, academically or intellectually, if you're in much of a position to look down on him.
I saw plenty of people at Dartmouth with first class degrees who didn't have an ounce of common sense, nor a clue about the real world. I wonder, academically or intellectually, if you're in much of a position to look down on him.
Cameron should move in with Brown, they'd get on well together.
Cameron should move in with
He's actually bright (not as bright as Bliar for money-making, but he's on his way). He's ensuring SamCam's dad Reggie is/already is gonna profit big time from useless wind-farms.
Perhaps he also thinks he's Thatcher2 as well with his daft announcement of right-to-buy housing?
NorthernBoy said:
He has three As at A-level, was described as one of the most able students by his tutor at Oxford, and graduated with a first class degree.
I wonder, academically or intellectually, if you're in much of a position to look down on him.
Qualifications have little to do with intellect. This is a man who had the best schools millionaire parents could buy.I wonder, academically or intellectually, if you're in much of a position to look down on him.
Through my wife I know a lecturer in a Sussex University whose qualifications I would put against Cameron any day of the week. His wife has taken away his credit and debit card and allows him cash on a daily basis. He is all but impossible to hold a conversation with not because he thinks too quickly for us plebs but because he has little idea of what is going on in the world. He regularly publishes articles which are hailed around the world as absolutely brilliant yet could not organise a BBQ.
Nice bloke but borderline moron.
Cameron may or may not be clever. However, there is little doubt that at the moment he has shown himself to be a poor prime minister.
After reading the whole thing, it might work. Flogging off council houses will depress the housing market since there would be a cheap source of houses, and provided houses are put up one for one, there will be a glut of new homes, further suppressing demand. I might just get to buy a house!
Its amazing how many politicians with outstanding educations from the finest schools and universities in the country, and indeed the most renowned in the World can come out with such brainless rubbish. I apply that to the vast majority of politicians. There must be a sign in the house of commons instructing them all to forget everything they've learned or something.
But as we know a good education doesnt make for a good politician as theres so much baggage that comes with politics that i dont think even Oxbridge could prepare you for it. And im not sure they have a book of 'how to make friends with Lib Dems without alienating people.'
But as we know a good education doesnt make for a good politician as theres so much baggage that comes with politics that i dont think even Oxbridge could prepare you for it. And im not sure they have a book of 'how to make friends with Lib Dems without alienating people.'
and yet in the same interview with Marr, Call Me Dave stated that he wanted to give villages more power to oppose planning regulations/permissions to maintain what he repeatedly referred to as the beautiful countryside and the villages future. So where are all these new houses he is going to build (sell one, build one was his plan i believe?) actually going to be sited? certainly not in any nice safe tory seats in the countryside, and where is this fantastic new HS2 rail line going to go? straight through the beautiful countryside?!??! the man is a moron.
the only people who will benefit are the landowners and the people with the equity to buy houses and exploit the buy-to-let potential. I'm not going to be so blunt as to say thats core tory supporting demographics but it cant be far off..... Call Me Dave spoke with what looked like disbelief when he said that the average age of a first time buyer without parental assistance was 37! the man is a moron. why can he not put two and two together and make four?!?!? the reason first time buyers are struggling today is a result of the lending market being f
ked and there are no affordable houses being built, what few are being built get bought for buy-to-lets....
I understand his simple mind though, fewer council houses = reduced council budgets, he thinks he is a genius, i think he is a moron.
the only people who will benefit are the landowners and the people with the equity to buy houses and exploit the buy-to-let potential. I'm not going to be so blunt as to say thats core tory supporting demographics but it cant be far off..... Call Me Dave spoke with what looked like disbelief when he said that the average age of a first time buyer without parental assistance was 37! the man is a moron. why can he not put two and two together and make four?!?!? the reason first time buyers are struggling today is a result of the lending market being f
ked and there are no affordable houses being built, what few are being built get bought for buy-to-lets....I understand his simple mind though, fewer council houses = reduced council budgets, he thinks he is a genius, i think he is a moron.
Derek Smith said:
Cameron may or may not be clever. However, there is little doubt that at the moment he has shown himself to be a poor prime minister.
I'm not having a personal dig here, Derek, but your comments to me seem to be symptomatic of a big problem we have currently. There seem to be many people out there who feel themselves qualified to pass judgement on the performance or lack of it of our politicians. There seem to be remarkably few of these people however, who are prepared to actually put themselves forward for election. There does however, seem to be a bottomless pit of excuses that these people can draw on to excuse themselves from the onerous task of actually working to improve things.
northernboy said:
I wonder, academically or intellectually, if you're in much of a position to look down on him.
Unfortunately his chances of remaining Prime Minister after 2015 depend on the public, many of whom with an inferior education, judging his performance and his suitability.If all it took was an expensive education to get everything right we wouldnt of ended up in this mess to start off with.
Details of the current scheme:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/HomeAndCommunity/Buyin...
"Remember, the actual discount you will get depends on where you live. For example, if you wanted to buy your flat in Yorkshire and had been a public sector tenant for ten years, you would qualify for a 60 per cent discount. But the maximum discount for Yorkshire is £24,000. This means if the flat was worth £124,000, you could buy it for £100,000."
Reading how the current scheme works, I don't understand the logic behind it. The longer you stay in council accommodation the more discount you get, so it rewards reliance on the state. In the example stated above the individual has either £100k in the bank, or the means to raise a £100k mortgage (a job) so why are they in council accommodation to start with and why do we give them a discount?
Cameron is proposing to increase these discounts further, far from stimulating economic activity that would surely just encourage state dependency?
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/HomeAndCommunity/Buyin...
"Remember, the actual discount you will get depends on where you live. For example, if you wanted to buy your flat in Yorkshire and had been a public sector tenant for ten years, you would qualify for a 60 per cent discount. But the maximum discount for Yorkshire is £24,000. This means if the flat was worth £124,000, you could buy it for £100,000."
Reading how the current scheme works, I don't understand the logic behind it. The longer you stay in council accommodation the more discount you get, so it rewards reliance on the state. In the example stated above the individual has either £100k in the bank, or the means to raise a £100k mortgage (a job) so why are they in council accommodation to start with and why do we give them a discount?
Cameron is proposing to increase these discounts further, far from stimulating economic activity that would surely just encourage state dependency?
Not all people in council homes are in there because they have 11 kids and live on benefits. My parents lived in a council house and both went out to work full time, it was cheaper than a mortgage and on only slightly above average income it freed up more funds for things they wanted to do, such as spending money on me to give me the best start in life possible.
Theres plenty of people in privately rented homes who pay for it with housing benefit, is that not considered 'state dependancy?' and theres people in work who are in council houses. Former 'council homes' are now under the control of Housing Associations. I know plenty of people who live in such homes who work full time and pay council tax just like anybody with a mortgage or private tenancy. Council House could be considered a bit of an out of date term now i suppose.
Theres plenty of people in privately rented homes who pay for it with housing benefit, is that not considered 'state dependancy?' and theres people in work who are in council houses. Former 'council homes' are now under the control of Housing Associations. I know plenty of people who live in such homes who work full time and pay council tax just like anybody with a mortgage or private tenancy. Council House could be considered a bit of an out of date term now i suppose.
Edited by martin84 on Sunday 2nd October 20:13
martin84 said:
Not all people in council homes are in there because they have 11 kids and live on benefits. My parents lived in a council house and both went out to work full time, it was cheaper than a mortgage and on only slightly above average income it freed up more funds for things they wanted to do, such as spending money on me to give me the best start in life possible.
Before "right to buy" came in council houses were actually quite a good thing - we didn't have much in the way of rental safeguards so it meant that you could be certain of getting a decent house. Also home ownership wasn't as common either.However, because of the way the market has gone in this country, what council housing is left is now the preserve of those who really don't have any other option; those who either can't afford or aren't welcome in private accomodation. While these people would get council housing before, they made up only a small proportion of the tenants.
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