I'm lost for words......

[ZOLLAR]

Seriously, reading this has shocked me.

article said:

A Scout leader jailed for sexually assaulting an 11-year-old girl on a camping trip is appealing to the European Court of Human Rights to be taken off the Sex Offenders Register claiming it breaches his human rights.
Andrew Deaves, who was jailed for two years last July but who has now been freed, said that being on the list was making his life 'a misery' and made it 'almost impossible' to go on holiday and see friends

How about the misery you caused that little girl you sick fk
Absolutely unbelievable.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2057893/Pa...

[vonuber]

I wonder, when his appeal gets rejected, will the Mail report on the sound judgement of the Court?

[Eric Mc]

ZOLLAR said:

Seriously, reading this has shocked me.

article said:

A Scout leader jailed for sexually assaulting an 11-year-old girl on a camping trip is appealing to the European Court of Human Rights to be taken off the Sex Offenders Register claiming it breaches his human rights.
Andrew Deaves, who was jailed for two years last July but who has now been freed, said that being on the list was making his life 'a misery' and made it 'almost impossible' to go on holiday and see friends

How about the misery you caused that little girl you sick fk
Absolutely unbelievable.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2057893/Pa...

Is not the time he spent in prison the penalty he paid for his crime?

Or is a person supposed to receive a form of "outside prison" life sentence as well?

Is that principle enshrined in English Law?

I believe he has a case and could well win.

[Norfolkit]

'being on the list was making his life 'a misery' and made it 'almost impossible' to go on holiday and see friends'

He still has friends?

[ZOLLAR]

Eric Mc said:

ZOLLAR said:

Seriously, reading this has shocked me.

article said:

A Scout leader jailed for sexually assaulting an 11-year-old girl on a camping trip is appealing to the European Court of Human Rights to be taken off the Sex Offenders Register claiming it breaches his human rights.
Andrew Deaves, who was jailed for two years last July but who has now been freed, said that being on the list was making his life 'a misery' and made it 'almost impossible' to go on holiday and see friends

How about the misery you caused that little girl you sick fk
Absolutely unbelievable.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2057893/Pa...

Is not the time he spent in prison the penalty he paid for his crime?

Or is a person supposed to receive a form of "outside prison" life sentence as well?

Is that principle enshrined in English Law?

I believe he has a case and could well win.

Punishment isn't just about spending time in prison part of his punishment is being on the register.

[eldar]

ZOLLAR said:

Punishment isn't just about spending time in prison part of his punishment is being on the register.

I thought the register was to protect others, rather than punishment. Bit like points on a driving licence?

[Laurel Green]

Norfolkit said:

'being on the list was making his life 'a misery' and made it 'almost impossible' to go on holiday and see friends'

He still has friends?

I read that as 'wanting to apply for a job that involves contact with children' and can't because of being on register.

Oh and, as to friends; would imagine that involves a PC + Internet + pictures for sharing.

[ZOLLAR]

eldar said:

ZOLLAR said:

Punishment isn't just about spending time in prison part of his punishment is being on the register.

I thought the register was to protect others, rather than punishment. Bit like points on a driving licence?

I suppose it is actually, personally I see it as part of the punishment.

[Eric Mc]

ZOLLAR said:

Punishment isn't just about spending time in prison part of his punishment is being on the register.

Says who?

And since when?

There is a basic principle in law and justice that a person serves a particular sentence for a particular crime. Once that sentence has been carried out, the person becaome a free man/woman - free to pick up the pieces of their life.

Obviously, if a crime is severe enough, the prison sentence should be comensurate with that crime.

I have problems with the notion that a person remains under a "sentence" for the rest of their life, even when they come out of prison.

[Mr_B]

Think positive, at least he didn't ask for any compensation.

[ZOLLAR]

Eric Mc said:

ZOLLAR said:

Punishment isn't just about spending time in prison part of his punishment is being on the register.

Says who?

And since when?

There is a basic principle in law and justice that a person serves a particular sentence for a particular crime. Once that sentence has been carried out, the person becaome a free man/woman - free to pick up the pieces of their life.

Obviously, if a crime is severe enough, the prison sentence should be comensurate with that crime.

I have problems with the notion that a person remains under a "sentence" for the rest of their life, even when they come out of prison.

See above, I didn't realise it wasn't part of the punishment.

[carmonk]

It's not punishment, it's simply keeping track of someone who is known to be a risk. Indeed, it's difficult to see how signing a piece of paper once a year, and before going on holiday, could be construed as any sort of punishment. This guy has been proven to be a risk through his conviction and it's reasonable that his movements are monitored. Now if the guy had not been convicted that would be a completely different matter but he has, hence the action.

[Streps]

No sympathy for Paedo scum.
All this chap deserves is to be fed feet first into a meat grinder.

[elster]

I can't see him winning.

He was notified at time of sentencing he would be on it for at least 10 years.

I think that is fair enough.

[Bing o]

Eric Mc said:

I have problems with the notion that a person remains under a "sentence" for the rest of their life, even when they come out of prison.

And I have problems with the PC crowd daring to try and tell the victims of sexual assault and rape that it isn't a life sentence for the victim.

If we can't castrate the .pdf chemically, or with a couple of bricks, or jail them for life, then reasonable measures should be taken to protect others from these monsters.

If he was that bothered about the list, he could have not done the crime in the first place.

It's no wonder the uk is morally bankrupt when the rights of the criminal are even considered in relation to the right of the victim and society.

[Victor McDade]

I'm more lost for words at the original sentence actually. 2 years prison for repeatedly indecently assaulting an 11 year old and forcing her to perform sexual acts on him.


For fk sake there was a cricketer jailed for longer than that this week for fixing a few matches.

[Corsair7]

Victor McDade said:

I'm more lost for words at the original sentence actually. 2 years prison for repeatedly indecently assaulting an 11 year old and forcing her to perform sexual acts on him.


For fk sake there was a cricketer jailed for longer than that this week for fixing a few matches.

They didnt even fix matches, just a couple of no balls!!!!

[carmonk]

Corsair7 said:

Victor McDade said:

I'm more lost for words at the original sentence actually. 2 years prison for repeatedly indecently assaulting an 11 year old and forcing her to perform sexual acts on him.


For fk sake there was a cricketer jailed for longer than that this week for fixing a few matches.

They didnt even fix matches, just a couple of no balls!!!!

Balls being the common denominator in both cases.

[DSM2]

Eric Mc said:

ZOLLAR said:

Punishment isn't just about spending time in prison part of his punishment is being on the register.

Says who?

And since when?

There is a basic principle in law and justice that a person serves a particular sentence for a particular crime. Once that sentence has been carried out, the person becaome a free man/woman - free to pick up the pieces of their life.

Obviously, if a crime is severe enough, the prison sentence should be comensurate with that crime.

I have problems with the notion that a person remains under a "sentence" for the rest of their life, even when they come out of prison.

Being on the register is clearly and necessarily part of the sentence.

Sad that, as implied by your post, you don't consider this was a severe crime.

[hornetrider]

Eric Mc said:

Is not the time he spent in prison the penalty he paid for his crime?

Or is a person supposed to receive a form of "outside prison" life sentence as well?

Is that principle enshrined in English Law?

I believe he has a case and could well win.

What are your views on the Sex Offenders Register?