First HSBC, now RBS and Nat West - Coincidence?
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AngryApples said:
Odd coincidence that HSBC, RBS and Natwest have all had problems with online banking, cashpoints and debit card transactions in the last few days
Anyone know any more beyond the news reports?
Right on top of all the recent guff about cyber attacks, just seems strange
Anyone know any more beyond the news reports?
Right on top of all the recent guff about cyber attacks, just seems strange
Goldfinger said:
Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times, it's enemy action.
Identical network behind the badge.Or perhaps a coincidence the problems happen the week after the clocks go back...
Anyhow, IT in banking is not the super-duper be-all and end-all that many try to make it out to be - in fact the reason most Banking IT beyond the whizz kids pays so well is that the money buys silence about just what a state their IT actually is in and that they'll all toe the line and not challenge the utter lunacy that prevails.
Anyhow, IT in banking is not the super-duper be-all and end-all that many try to make it out to be - in fact the reason most Banking IT beyond the whizz kids pays so well is that the money buys silence about just what a state their IT actually is in and that they'll all toe the line and not challenge the utter lunacy that prevails.
hornet said:
Hurried maintenance to correct whatever problem it was that hit HSBC perhaps? The conspiracy blogs are doubtless having a field day.
Nope. They run secondary redundancy systems and servers in case something goes wrong. I know this as i knocked one of BOA's backup servers offline a few years back.Tallbut Buxomly said:
Nope. They run secondary redundancy systems and servers in case something goes wrong. I know this as i knocked one of BOA's backup servers offline a few years back.
May not work. Just ask any IBM mainframe'r in the know about DASD failures ;-) - has been known to take out entire zSeries or two, then oops that super duper resilience ain't so resilient...TBH for such a big hit, and with the amount of systems involved, it's most likely that it's coincidence.
shocks said:
May not work. Just ask any IBM mainframe'r in the know about DASD failures ;-) - has been known to take out entire zSeries or two, then oops that super duper resilience ain't so resilient...
TBH for such a big hit, and with the amount of systems involved, it's most likely that it's coincidence.
TBH for such a big hit, and with the amount of systems involved, it's most likely that it's coincidence.
Uhuh, and all the clever-d1cks babble on about SANs - yet every major outage that I've seen that;s a result of a system failure has been down to a SAN failure which takes out practically every major system from email to DBMS to application servers and more (just had some this week where I work - I wonder if that's a councidence too).
sadoksevoli said:
Uhuh, and all the clever-d1cks babble on about SANs - yet every major outage that I've seen that;s a result of a system failure has been down to a SAN failure which takes out practically every major system from email to DBMS to application servers and more (just had some this week where I work - I wonder if that's a councidence too).
- shrug* resilience is only as good as the as deployed design being up to snuff and any subsequent operational changes not being done by trained monkeys... sad state affairs in IT these days lends itself to the latter, or the lack of proper care and feeding of the system over it's life.
shocks said:
May not work. Just ask any IBM mainframe'r in the know about DASD failures ;-) - has been known to take out entire zSeries or two, then oops that super duper resilience ain't so resilient...
TBH for such a big hit, and with the amount of systems involved, it's most likely that it's coincidence.
Been there with DASD failures in the past and have no wish to ever repeat the sTBH for such a big hit, and with the amount of systems involved, it's most likely that it's coincidence.
tstorm that it resulted in from the head honchos 
CobolMan said:
Been there with DASD failures in the past and have no wish to ever repeat the ststorm that it resulted in from the head honchos
Aye, smarts a bit. Murphy has this annoying habit of applying his law once in a while to stuff that should recover. Most times though still comes down to human error or poor pre-production test / upgrade. tstorm that it resulted in from the head honchos Too many corners getting cut these days, seeing more and more instances of serious failure, call it "cost cutting, offshoring, process efficiency" all you want, still no replacement for good core engineering management. Suspect it will only get worse with the downturn, good for us; I just pity the poor sods in corp IT that take the flak for systems issues though ultimately down to managements pursuit of cost optimisation at expense of proper lifecycle management of platforms and training of the their people.
almost as if that pose was waiting for this thread. shocks said:
Too many corners getting cut these days, seeing more and more instances of serious failure, call it "cost cutting, offshoring, process efficiency" all you want, still no replacement for good core engineering management. Suspect it will only get worse with the downturn, good for us; I just pity the poor sods in corp IT that take the flak for systems issues though ultimately down to managements pursuit of cost optimisation at expense of proper lifecycle management of platforms and training of the their people.
Agreed. Off shoring and poorly managed outsourcing relationships are usually to blame.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff