Neutrinos still faster than light
Neutrinos still faster than light
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Driller

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8,310 posts

309 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-1579...

They've done the experiment again with the same result. Interesting stuff.

Melvin Udall

73,668 posts

286 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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Was reading about this 10 minutes ago. Fascinating stuff.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

235 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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I was reading about it last year

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

273 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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The practical applications that they came up with tomorrow are very interesting.

anonymous-user

85 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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I was reading about this next week.

crofty1984

17,064 posts

235 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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Now it gets interesting...

russ_a

4,727 posts

242 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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or really boring when they find the silly mistake smile

Laplace

1,091 posts

213 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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I personally can't see how this is significant.

As the article states they have removed but one of the sources of potential error. This proves nothing other than that this part of the measurment is good.


El Guapo

2,787 posts

221 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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russ_a said:
or really boring when they find the silly mistake smile
Einstein wasn't wrong about the speed of light. Somebody has indeed made a silly mistake somewhere.

Snoggledog

9,280 posts

248 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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El Guapo said:
Einstein wasn't wrong about the speed of light. Somebody has indeed made a silly mistake somewhere.
Without challenging assumptions, how else does science move forward?

Digga

48,563 posts

314 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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Snoggledog said:
Without challenging assumptions, how else does science move forward?
Slowly, which is what the establishment - especially the church - and those who fear change (i.e. a lot of people) often wanted .

tank slapper

7,949 posts

314 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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El Guapo said:
Einstein wasn't wrong about the speed of light. Somebody has indeed made a silly mistake somewhere.
Newton wasn't wrong either. His theory simply wasn't complete. Einstein's aren't complete either and he knew it. About quantum theory he said "All my attempts to adapt the theoretical foundation of physics to this new type of knowledge failed completely. It was as if the ground had been pulled out from under one, with no firm foundation to be seen anywhere, upon which one could have built."

Raify

6,556 posts

279 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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I shall post this joke last week:


Bartender - "We don't serve faster-than-light-neutrinos in here. 2

2 faster-than-light-neutrinos walk into a bar.


spikeyhead

20,614 posts

228 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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From what I'd read of the initial experiment, a 20cm discrepancy in the distance would account for the error and I still don't think they've addressed that.

Anyone got a big tape measure?

tank slapper

7,949 posts

314 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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spikeyhead said:
From what I'd read of the initial experiment, a 20cm discrepancy in the distance would account for the error and I still don't think they've addressed that.

Anyone got a big tape measure?
I don't think the accuracy of the distance measurement was in question in relation to the result. The discrepancy relates to a distance of around 18 metres and they have the locations down to within 20cm or so.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

273 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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Raify said:
I shall post this joke last week:


Bartender - "We don't serve faster-than-light-neutrinos in here. 2

2 faster-than-light-neutrinos walk into a bar.
Prepost.

Zaxxon

4,057 posts

191 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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If the faster than light speed thing is true then it is amazing, one of the cornerstones of physics demolished. I bet it was a measuring mistake though. frown

This however is also very exiting.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15788735

The worlds lightest material announced.

Coming to a Formula One wing near you......and maybe and airliner or two.

Melvin Udall

73,668 posts

286 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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Has the experiment been repeated elsewhere, with the same results? I would imagine that would be the clincher.

RegMolehusband

4,116 posts

288 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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Well that's it then. I am now even more convinced about my personal theory that UFOs are future inhabitants of Earth (the planet will then be called something else because they won't be us) travelling back in time. A sort of Time Team, but for real.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

240 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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The problem is that as far as I have heard on this subject, Neutrinos do travel at the speed of light normally, this has been proved by measurements of Novas where the Neutrinos appeared on time, if the FTL was correct they would have seen them 4 years before they did.