US university investigates campus pepper spray use
US university investigates campus pepper spray use
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paddyhasneeds

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68,257 posts

241 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15809742

I don't quite get the problem if I'm honest. Protesters won't leave, Dean calls Police, Police don't take any st and get rid of the protesters in what seems a reasonably non-violent way (it being the US and all that).

Jasandjules

72,674 posts

260 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Well it's not like they were fighting back or being violent at all, so I don't see why CS was used, at least at that point in time.

pokethepope

2,667 posts

219 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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They seemed to be sitting down on a path. Not blocking a road or building, or disrupting anybody. I'd say dragging them away would be excessive, let alone pepper spray. Just leave them be and wait for them to get hungry or need a piss.

Mr_B

10,480 posts

274 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Some 84 year old granny got it in the face ( pepper spray, that is ) the other day for being part of a protest.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northame...

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Arming the small minded who are unable to get jobs in the real po-po is never going to end well, especially amongst a nation of e-number addled trigger happy loons.

Still, world police, land of the free, home of the brave eh...

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

235 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Of course who would object to that being done to those currently camped outside St pauls

Derek Smith

49,986 posts

279 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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paddyhasneeds said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15809742

I don't quite get the problem if I'm honest. Protesters won't leave, Dean calls Police, Police don't take any st and get rid of the protesters in what seems a reasonably non-violent way (it being the US and all that).
I'm a bit confused by your definition of non-violent. Pepper spray is an assualt and a rather serious one at that. If you try that on a member of the public then you are likely to be imprisoned for a first offence.

A PC who merely pushed a demonstrator is up for trial in this country.

If we leave the moral and legal side alone for the moment, what about the effect on those who see such violence being used on apparently passive demonstrators. Do you think it is likely to stop demonstrators attending or convince the waverers that they should actually do something?

The demonstrators now have a cause celebre. or rather a choice, there's the 84 year old granny as well.

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

204 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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It's always nice to have some short video clips to stimulate debate..





although this isn't related directly to the University incident It is in my opinion a great little clip.



hehe

chrisj_abz

807 posts

216 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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the company i work for have their headquarters in Davis, so ive been there a few times..

You couldnt really get a more laid back town to be honest, very quiet place even with a huge uni campus there, hardly any problems so maybe the police were a bit excited to be donning the riot gear..


AJS-

15,366 posts

267 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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ZOLLAR said:
It's always nice to have some short video clips to stimulate debate..
although this isn't related directly to the University incident It is in my opinion a great little clip.

hehe
Although it's a terrible affront to civil liberties, the right to free assembly and expression etc, I really am enjoying those...

Frankeh

12,558 posts

216 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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ZOLLAR said:
although this isn't related directly to the University incident It is in my opinion a great little clip.

I love that. Got a source?

'fk YOU'

'Nope, fk you.' (spray)

eybic

9,212 posts

205 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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That 2nd one is awesome, hahahahaha biggrin

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

204 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Frankeh said:
ZOLLAR said:
although this isn't related directly to the University incident It is in my opinion a great little clip.

I love that. Got a source?

'fk YOU'

'Nope, fk you.' (spray)
Pepper spray facial biggrin



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2063181/Th...

AJS-

15,366 posts

267 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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At risk of turning this into a hippy bashing soft porn thread, this is fun



No tear gas here, but a white person with dreadlocks getting a hard time.

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

204 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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AJS- said:
At risk of turning this into a hippy bashing soft porn thread, this is fun



No tear gas here, but a white person with dreadlocks getting a hard time.
The cop with the hand over the face is quite clearly smiling! hehe
By the way is that a male or female protestor? confused

paddyhasneeds

Original Poster:

68,257 posts

241 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Derek Smith said:
I'm a bit confused by your definition of non-violent. Pepper spray is an assualt and a rather serious one at that. If you try that on a member of the public then you are likely to be imprisoned for a first offence.

A PC who merely pushed a demonstrator is up for trial in this country.

If we leave the moral and legal side alone for the moment, what about the effect on those who see such violence being used on apparently passive demonstrators. Do you think it is likely to stop demonstrators attending or convince the waverers that they should actually do something?

The demonstrators now have a cause celebre. or rather a choice, there's the 84 year old granny as well.
Derek, what would you suggest as a first resort when presumably "please" doesn't work?

AJS-

15,366 posts

267 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Female mother of four who had left her kids and husband (who works for a bank) in Florida to go and protest against selfish people...

Article in the Mail, but I lost the link

y2blade

56,322 posts

246 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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ZOLLAR said:
Frankeh said:
ZOLLAR said:
although this isn't related directly to the University incident It is in my opinion a great little clip.

I love that. Got a source?

'fk YOU'

'Nope, fk you.' (spray)
Pepper spray facial biggrin



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2063181/Th...
rofl

I love it biggrin

take that you crusty f******s!!!! now get a job

neilr

1,588 posts

294 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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I'm assuming all of you who have so vocally supported the police actions won't be making any complaint (on PH at least) about police brutality or misuse for powers etc when the recipients aren't students or crusty workshy layabouts in the future then?

King Herald

23,501 posts

247 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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AJS- said:
At risk of turning this into a hippy bashing soft porn thread, this is fun



No tear gas here, but a white person with dreadlocks getting a hard time.
Aha, the old eye-gouging accident trick. hehe

"Yes, I am aware she is now blind in one eye, yer 'onour,. My finger must have slipped whilst I was preventing the defendant from trying to bite my colleagues..."

yes