A12 concrete drop 'attempted murder'
A12 concrete drop 'attempted murder'
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br d

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9,072 posts

257 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16007212

The problem is, it won't be will it.

If these lunatics do get caught there is no way they will be charged with attempted murder.

Jasandjules

72,676 posts

260 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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You never know. I "think" that one was previously, but then I think that was when the driver was killed, the old grey matter doesn't work well anymore.......

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

198 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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it says on the red button that one of the victims has life threatening injuries. What do you expect to happen when you hurl a lump of concrete off a bridge into traffic? It's hardly going to bounce like a beach ball and have drivers laughing. I'm surprised Brake haven't been on blaming the driver and calling for a lower speed limit.

essexplumber

7,756 posts

204 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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I hope they are caught and I hope they recieve a very long jail sentence. To do something like this and not think that you could kill someone shows enough stupidity to warrant them to be sectioned let alone charged with attempted murder!

Happy82

15,078 posts

200 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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I saw a bunch of kids chucking bricks onto the Aston Expressway once, did report it immediately but the problem is that there's almost no chance of catching the sts who do it as once you've called the police and a unit is sent out, the bds disappear mad




carmonk

7,910 posts

218 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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I'd happily line the fkers up and drop concrete on their heads then roll their bodies into a ditch.

0a

24,159 posts

225 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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They need to catch them, it sounds like they did this before. Cameras or a stake out should be used.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

229 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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One of the things which I really dislike when driving on Mways is kids or teenagers on a bridge looking at the traffic or waving with one hand.... You never know one of them might do something crazy like throwing an object and potentially killing people.

It wouldn't be death by diminished responsibility (ie lost the plot nut Job excuse)
It wouldn't be manslaughter as that is death caused by an accident - this is deliberate
It is attempted murder or if those poor people don't pull through murder in the first degree therefore life.


If they are kids I'd want the parents to be charged too - there is no excuse for this you know what the result is likely to be a terrible accident at best.


98elise

32,806 posts

192 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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I can't see how it can be anything other then attempted murder. Its not that far from randomly shooting a gun in a street. A concrete block at 70 mph is going to be as deadly.

TheSnitch

2,342 posts

185 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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It seems to happen a lot on that road

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8680461.s...

In this incident last year, the little gits were aged between 7 and 9.

A ''stern ticking off'' was administered. Below the age of criminal responsibility, I guess.

The same won't apply if whoever is responsible for these latest attacks turns out to be older, and I can't see 7 to 9 year olds being able to hurl ''bucket sized'' lumps of concrete off a bridge.

Davi

17,153 posts

251 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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When is society going to start taking these people to task? When are we going to get over the politically correct bks and start dishing out punishment fitting of this sort of crime?

Hope the woman pulls through and makes as full a recovery as possible.

dandarez

14,040 posts

314 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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TheSnitch said:
It seems to happen a lot on that road

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8680461.s...

In this incident last year, the little gits were aged between 7 and 9.

A ''stern ticking off'' was administered. Below the age of criminal responsibility, I guess.

The same won't apply if whoever is responsible for these latest attacks turns out to be older, and I can't see 7 to 9 year olds being able to hurl ''bucket sized'' lumps of concrete off a bridge.
No?

The 7-9 year old boys hurled the not inconsiderable sized chunk the cop is holding in the pic, whilst 'standing on the verge' behind the barriers. (ie: not dropped from a bridge).



Naturally, they got a 'stern ticking off'. rolleyes

Where is the deterrent in that? There isn't any.
In fact, where are 'deterrents' today?

Isn't this why it has happened again?
We now only act when it's too late, after the event, usually when some poor bugger has died.
Some would say even then we don't act!

What has happened to this country?

Surprised no one in authority has come out and said:
'We take these things extremely serious', the pc line used far too often today.

I suppose we just live on a wing and prayer today, in that you just pray you're not driving under one of the bridges when these scum are doing such acts.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

277 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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br d said:
If these lunatics do get caught there is no way they will be charged with attempted murder.
You may be right, but there are plenty of lesser offences which could put them away for a long time.

This has nothing in common with the Michael Jackson doctor situation (albeit under a different legal system)because when you drop a brick on a car there is clear intention to cause harm. In his case the 4 year sentence was the maximum possible on the charge for an offence committed with no "intention".

EDLT

15,421 posts

237 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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If caught they will get long, long community sentences (reduced on a appeal).

KB_S1

5,967 posts

260 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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dandarez said:
No?

The 7-9 year old boys hurled the not inconsiderable sized chunk the cop is holding in the pic, whilst 'standing on the verge' behind the barriers. (ie: not dropped from a bridge).
That bit of rock wouldn't way even a quarter of what the block does.
I would have thought a vehicle was needed to carry it an distance.
The blocks look likely to be near 30kg.

fido

18,922 posts

286 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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EDLT said:
If caught they will get long, long community sentences (reduced on a appeal).
I doubt it. This is attempted murder - and remember what happened to the student who chucked a fire extinguisher from the roof?

skinley

1,681 posts

191 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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anonymous said:
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I don't think morons like this are capable of stringing two thoughts together.

skinley

1,681 posts

191 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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KB_S1 said:
That bit of rock wouldn't way even a quarter of what the block does.
I would have thought a vehicle was needed to carry it an distance.
The blocks look likely to be near 30kg.
Terribly sorry to point this out but the correct spelling is 'weigh'.smile

KB_S1

5,967 posts

260 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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skinley said:
Terribly sorry to point this out but the correct spelling is 'weigh'.smile
Ha ha. A moment there for my typing skills!

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

277 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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fido said:
This is attempted murder
To convict for attempted murder the jury must conclude there was an "intention to kill". By the time a 15-year old has been dragged into court and says his intention was to hit the vehicles but he didn't realise anyone could get hurt the jury will just send him home to his mum.

Could be better to charge a lesser offence which still carries a substantial penalty. There are some tough ones available without getting into the complications of proving attempted murder.