Shocking physical attack of pregnant woman on tram.
Shocking physical attack of pregnant woman on tram.
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dasherdiablo1

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4,490 posts

252 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Right seeing as I started this topic in the wrong forum and it was locked I thought I'd put it in the right place!

Just been on youtube and found a truly shocking attack on a tram.

Can't believe some white woman who was verbally abusing a carriage load of people has been put in prison for rascism and this group of black girls attack a non black pregnant woman and her husband causing her to have a miscarriage and get away with it.

This isn't just about rascim this is the vile youth we have in this country.

There has been so much of a upset about Jeremy Clarkson joking about shooting strikers. He was of course very wrong...it is scum like this that should be executed in public. Disgusting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uneS3E9-wzM

Happy82

15,078 posts

200 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Christ eek

Guy showed a lot of restraint, dread to think what I'd have done if it was my partner assaulted by those animals furious

Pesty

42,655 posts

287 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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That young chap has more control over anger than me.

I would have battered the fk out of those bhes after the first few punches. You can't just stand there getting attacked and kicked in the head 'women' or not


Of course the 'racist' woman was worse don't you know thought crime is far far worse than assault in this country.


Wait a minute just watched it again. She was sat there first they nick her phones then her seat and he does fk all?

She needs a new bloke. There was another chap sat right opposite watching it all why didnt he step in either.

Edited by Pesty on Friday 2nd December 23:54

SC7

1,882 posts

212 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Pesty said:
That young chap has more control over anger than me.

I would have battered the fk out of those bhes after the first few punches. You can't just stand there getting attacked and kicked in the head 'women' or not


Of course the racist woman was worse don't you know thought crime is far far worse than assault in this country.
Couldn't have put it better myself.

If we need a volunteer to flick the switch on the electric chair for these little s then I'd like to put my name forward.

nigel_bytes

557 posts

267 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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It makes you wonder whats going to happen next, worrying times ahead i think.
Only 20 there but is it the start of something ?

Prison protest calls for release of 'tram rant woman' Emma WestMedia Summary
Just under 20 people held a quiet protest outside HMP Bronzefield calling for the release of Emma West, held there on remand after her racist tram outburst was posted on YouTube. Ashford, Middlesex, UK. 2nd December 2011
http://www.demotix.com/news/951463/prison-protest-...


12gauge

1,274 posts

205 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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nigel_bytes said:
It makes you wonder whats going to happen next, worrying times ahead i think.
Only 20 there but is it the start of something ?

Prison protest calls for release of 'tram rant woman' Emma WestMedia Summary
Just under 20 people held a quiet protest outside HMP Bronzefield calling for the release of Emma West, held there on remand after her racist tram outburst was posted on YouTube. Ashford, Middlesex, UK. 2nd December 2011
http://www.demotix.com/news/951463/prison-protest-...

If I lived there i would join them.

It wouldnt be a 'Keep Britain White' placard, more a 'I disagree with her views, but will defend her right to say them'

Imprisoning her is the action of a sick, sick state so unsure of itself it needs to silence dissenters.


rpguk

4,520 posts

315 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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The video sounds horrific and I'm not tempted to watch it.

However youtube is sadly full of this kind of stuff and I'm not sure what the connection with tram woman is. It's quite sad actually that rather then just dismiss them both as bad, people are trying to build some kind of silly narrative out of the two totally unconnected events rolleyes

Edited by rpguk on Saturday 3rd December 01:25

Thom987

3,185 posts

197 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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rpguk said:
It's quite sad actually that rather then just dismiss them both as bad, people are trying to build some kind of silly narrative out of the two totally unconnected events rolleyes
We call it whataboutery.

Mojooo

13,291 posts

211 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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12gauge said:
If I lived there i would join them.

It wouldnt be a 'Keep Britain White' placard, more a 'I disagree with her views, but will defend her right to say them'

Imprisoning her is the action of a sick, sick state so unsure of itself it needs to silence dissenters.
She shouldnt be punished for having (moronic) racist views - but she should be punished for making people feel uncomfortable and causing a situation on the tram - whether that is jail or not is another thing.


rpguk

4,520 posts

315 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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Mojooo said:
12gauge said:
If I lived there i would join them.

It wouldnt be a 'Keep Britain White' placard, more a 'I disagree with her views, but will defend her right to say them'

Imprisoning her is the action of a sick, sick state so unsure of itself it needs to silence dissenters.
She shouldnt be punished for having (moronic) racist views - but she should be punished for making people feel uncomfortable and causing a situation on the tram - whether that is jail or not is another thing.
Exactly. I'm not sure I agree with her being locked up pretty much as a populist move. However there are a great many injustices that I would protest against before her incarceration!

rich1231

17,340 posts

291 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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dasherdiablo1 said:
Right seeing as I started this topic in the wrong forum and it was locked I thought I'd put it in the right place!

Just been on youtube and found a truly shocking attack on a tram.

Can't believe some white woman who was verbally abusing a carriage load of people has been put in prison for rascism and this group of black girls attack a non black pregnant woman and her husband causing her to have a miscarriage and get away with it.

This isn't just about rascim this is the vile youth we have in this country.

There has been so much of a upset about Jeremy Clarkson joking about shooting strikers. He was of course very wrong...it is scum like this that should be executed in public. Disgusting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uneS3E9-wzM
Nothing to do with colour or race, they are just scum.

AJS-

15,366 posts

267 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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It never is to do with race of course, is it.

Sorry but it fking well is. Nearly every single one of these videos that pops up involves a bunch of blacks attacking someone, either black or otherwise. And you can also bet your life that if that had been a bunch of white youths similarly attacking a black couple then the response, even on the bastion of left wingery that is Pistonheads, would have been a witch-hunt to end them all.

It's nothing to do with the tram lady as such, but when she gets put in prison for her outburst I damn well hope these animals get a long, long time.

ETA: It actually happened in Seattle.
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/112037029.html?...

Edited by AJS- on Saturday 3rd December 06:54

DuncanM

7,536 posts

310 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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Is anyone else thinking that, if that was your wife, you would have actually killed at least one of the girls and done the time for it?

There are certain things I see, and I think, I'll do the time rather than let this happen frown.

Doesn't excuse the thick racist lady though, in any way whatsoever.

Youtube is great and awful in equal measure for showing this sort of thing I think frown.


cwis

1,249 posts

210 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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Well personally having been a victim of a racially motivated attack on THREE occasions, I have formed my own opinion.

The "average" white middle class person whose parents were born in this country, (ie the majority of pink people, if you will) are the LEAST racist ethnic group in this country.

And the views of this group change through time - in the 70's this group was far more racist.

The problem is, the other groups tend to form enclaves, and this hardens and freezes their respective cultures. An Indian mate of mine want back to India in his teens and came back with wide eyes at the short skirts the girls there wear - Indian culture (in his enclave) was stuck in the 1950's here, because that is when the majority of the first generation came over.

So the issue as I see it is not getting the majority of people to accept different cultures (they will in time) but to prevent enclaves forming. Enclaves allow extremists of all types to live undetected, they allow people to live in a country for 40 years without learning the local language, they provide cover for forced marriages, child/spouse abuse etc etc.....

They also prevent the mores of the population changing to match that of the rest of the culture, which is why crime rates (for certain types of crime) are so disproportionally skewed towards certain ethnic groups - they dont get the message that "that" is wrong here.

I have no idea how to fix it though - immigration into the Americas in the past went along with the idea of integration into the American society - but it's not that hate crime doesn't exist in America now, is it?

AndyACB

12,706 posts

228 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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Looks like Americans on a bus fighting to me confused

Bill

58,873 posts

286 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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Elroy Blue said:
You have issues!
As does the guy who's put it on YouTube as some sort of a riposte to the tram woman. Look at the tags and usernamesilly

Bill

58,873 posts

286 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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dasherdiablo1 said:
causing her to have a miscarriage and get away with it.
Where did you actually find the link? As there's no mention of a miscarriage in the original news article, or on YouTube.

Pothole

34,367 posts

313 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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AJS- said:
It never is to do with race of course, is it.

Sorry but it fking well is. Nearly every single one of these videos that pops up involves a bunch of blacks attacking someone, either black or otherwise. And you can also bet your life that if that had been a bunch of white youths similarly attacking a black couple then the response, even on the bastion of left wingery that is Pistonheads, would have been a witch-hunt to end them all.

It's nothing to do with the tram lady as such, but when she gets put in prison for her outburst I damn well hope these animals get a long, long time.

ETA: It actually happened in Seattle.
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/112037029.html?...

Edited by AJS- on Saturday 3rd December 06:54
A year ago.

null

13,966 posts

222 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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DuncanM said:
Is anyone else thinking that, if that was your wife, you would have actually killed at least one of the girls and done the time for it?
Being of standard PH proportions and not having the restraint shown by that young gentleman, yes, I would have absolutely clattered them far beyond what was necessary for retrieving the iPod and iPhone. And, apparently, everyone else on the crowded bus would have stood by and watched while I did it.

Pothole

34,367 posts

313 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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dasherdiablo1 said:
Right seeing as I started this topic in the wrong forum and it was locked I thought I'd put it in the right place!

Just been on youtube and found a truly shocking attack on a tram.it was a bus. in Seattle. A year ago

Can't believe some white woman who was verbally abusing a carriage load of people has been put in prison for rascism and this group of black girls attack a non black pregnant woman and her husband causing her to have a miscarriage and get away with it.how do you know they 'got away with it'? The story on a local news website (from SEATTLE USA remember) says 5 suspects were arrested

This isn't just about rascim this is the vile youth we have in this country. They are not in this country. You idiot

There has been so much of a upset about Jeremy Clarkson joking about shooting strikers. He was of course very wrong...he was not wrong, you did not listen to him properly. He said something intentionally outrageous firstly because that is his schtick and secondly to take the piss out of the supposed 'balance' of the BBC it is scum like this that should be executed in public. Disgusting. Yes, anyone who supports public execution is disgusting, well done

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uneS3E9-wzM
You are the worst kind of idiot. You can't even wait 30 seconds to properly research something before you launch into a morally outraged rant based on unintelligent opinions and hearsay. You should have your compouter confiscated and be banned from ever posting such utter rubbish on the internet again. Moron

PS A shtick (Yiddish: שטיק) (or schtick) is a comic theme or gimmick. "Shtick" is derived from the Yiddish word shtik (שטיק), meaning "piece"; the closely related German word Stück has the same meaning. The English word "piece" itself is also sometimes used in a similar context.